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CEO Mega Paks ndash jeder CEO Mega Pak ist mit Produkten verpackt und qualifiziert Sie auch, um zusätzliche CEO-Vorteile zu erhalten, darunter: Führungstraining, CEO-Boni, Aktienoptionen, Luxusreiseanreize, Unendlichkeitsgeld, Silver Mercedes Club. Wählen Sie aus zwei CEO Mega Paks. 499.95 Gesundheit und Schönheit CEO Mega Pak ndash Lebenszeit CEO Berater, Berater Willkommen Kit, Youngevity Hautpflege und Mineral Make-up Proben und suppliesIt ist ein scheinbar nie Um zu verhindern, dass die Verbraucher von MLM-Systemen betrogen werden. Heute schauen wir uns noch einen von ihnen an: Youngevity. Ich hatte einen Leser fragen mich über Youngevity den anderen Tag. Wir nennen ihn Spike. Er schrieb: 8220Haben Sie getan jede Forschung über die Youngevity Produkte 038 Dr. Joel Wallach Ich habe ihre Tangy Tangerine Produkt sowie die EFA8217s 038 Osteo FX in den letzten 3 Monaten. Ich las Ihren Artikel über Lifevantage und war sehr beeindruckt von der Tiefe Ihres Studiums. Wollte nur sehen, wenn Sie etwas mit Youngevity.8221 Ich hatte noch nie von Youngevity gehört. Allerdings, nachdem ich in anderen MLM Betrügereien, weiß ich, einer der ersten Orte, um zu sehen ist die Kosten des Produkts. Warum MLMs oft verlangen, dass ihre Händler Produkt kaufen, um an der Gelegenheit teilnehmen. Das künstlich teure Produkt zahlt das Unternehmen saftig Margen, und Händler zahlen oft den Zuschlag Monat für Monat als Gebühr für das, was sie fühlen wird sie Geld machen. Als ich in die Preise der Youngevity8217s Produkte sah, hatte es alle sage-tale Zeichen eines MLM Betrug. Der Wert der Tangy Tangerine Das erste Produkt, das Spike erwähnt wurde Tangy Tangerine, ein 32 Unzen Getränk, das hoch mit Vitaminen und Mineralien verpackt ist. Bei einem Preis von rund 40 für eine 30-Tage-Versorgung ist es nach oben von 1,25 pro Portion. Ich habe eine schnelle Suche auf Amazon und gefunden Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men Multivitamins (180-Pack). Die ähnlich stark mit Vitaminen und Mineralien verpackt war. Ich didn8217t Spezifikationen von jedem Nährstoff vergleichen, aber es war nah, mehr in einigen Bereichen, weniger in anderen. Der Preis auf Amazon für Opti-Männer ist 10 Cent eine Pille und 3 Pillen sind in einer Portion, für insgesamt 30 Cent eine Portion. Also statt der Zahlung von 40 pro Monat für Tangy Tangerine, könnten Sie etwa 9-10 pro Monat bezahlen. Einige der Meinungen, sagte Opti-Men war wirklich mächtig und there8217s wirklich keine Notwendigkeit, drei Kapseln zu nehmen, so können Sie feststellen, dass Sie noch mehr Geld sparen können, indem sie nur ein oder zwei. (Hinweis: Die Opti-Men war das erste, was ich sah, ich wette, es8217s eine gleichwertige women8217s Version, die ähnlich ist.) Preis pro Portion: 0,30 vs 1,25 zugunsten von Opti-Men. That8217s ein Einsparungen von ein wenig mehr als 75. Mit Tangy Tangerine, ein weiteres Anliegen habe ich mit der Vermarktung dieses Produkts. Auf der Flasche heißt es 8220 mit 115 Gemüse und Obst.8221 Es gibt keine Obst und Gemüse in 500mg Pulver und sicherlich nicht 115. Jeder Kauf in dieser Forderung sollte eine Flasche zu ihrem Arzt oder medizinischen Fachmann nehmen (wer isn8217t angeschlossenen mit der MLM) Und fragen Sie sie, wenn Sie aufhören können, Gemüse zu essen, weil Sie 115 von Tangy Tangerine erhalten. Ich Bild sie finden, dass humorvoll. Der Wert von EPA Plus Next up ist EPA Plus. Diese Ergänzung ist wie Fischöl, aber es ist eine Mischung aus gesunden Ölen wie Leinsamen. Im Internet fand ich es für ca. 30 für 90 Kapseln, was 90 Portionen entspricht. That8217s 30 Cent eine Portion. So what8217s der Amazonas in der Nähe gleichwertigen It8217s Omega 3-6-9 Gold. Es hat die Mischung der verschiedenen Quellen der guten Fette außerdem. Es ist 13 für 180 Kapseln, die entpuppt sich zu 7 Cent eine serving8230 und bei 1200mg werden Sie immer mehr Produkt. Update: 12302013: Sieht aus wie das Produkt momentan nicht bei Amazon erhältlich ist. Allerdings verbrachte ich weitere 30 Sekunden kommen mit einer guten Alternative von Amazon: NOW Foods Omega 3-6-9 1000mg. Es ist etwa 15 für 250 Kapseln8230 6 Cent pro Kapsel. Wenn Sie Amazon8217s Abonnieren und speichern, können Sie klopfen, die sich um weitere 20 für einen Preis von rund 12.50. Preis pro Portion: 0,06 vs 0,30 zu Gunsten von NOW Foods Omega 3-6-9. That8217s 15. der Preis oder 80 off der Youngevity Preis8230 und es wird sogar billiger mit Abonnieren und speichern. Der Wert von Osteo Plus An diesem Punkt bekam ich ein wenig müde zu suchen, so dass ich buchstäblich nahm das erste, was ich bei Amazon gefunden und es schien in der Nähe der Osteo Plus-Mischung. Insbesondere beziehe ich mich auf: Enzymatische Therapie OsteoPrime Plus. Ich musste auf eine andere Website, um die ernährungsphysiologischen Informationen über dieses Produkt zu erhalten, wie es war nett auf Amazon erhältlich. Die Ernährungsinformationen zeigen eine vielfältigere Mischung als Youngevity8217s Osteo Plus, aber mit niedrigeren Mengen an Kalzium und Vitamin D. Dies sind die großen Dinge, die Sie in einem Osteokomplex suchen, so sieht es wie eine schlechte Passform aus. Allerdings beachten Sie, dass das Opti-Men Produkt oben hatte zusätzliche Kalzium und Vitamin D, plus there8217s die Nährstoffe, die Sie aus Ihrer regelmäßigen Ernährung erhalten. Das sollte jeden Unterschied ausmachen. OsteoPrime Plus ist bei 17 für 120 Kapseln preislich günstig. Allerdings mit 4 Kapseln pro Portion, die eine 30-Tage-Versorgung auf Amazon. Der Preis für Youngevity8217s Osteo Plus online, dass ich sah, war 41 auch für eine 32-Tage-Versorgung. Preis pro Portion: 0,57 vs. 1,28 zugunsten der enzymatischen Therapie OsteoPrime Plus. Dieses Mal sind die Einsparungen näher an 55. Ich sollte erwähnen, dass diese don8217t zu sein scheinen zufällige Produkte, die Spike ausgewählt. Sie alle scheinen ein Teil von dem zu sein, was das Youngevity Healthy Start Paket nennt. Dieses 112 Produkt hat die 30-Tage-Versorgung aller drei Youngevity Produkte. Der Preis dafür ist Kombination auf dieser Website und diese Website ist 112 (ab 4272012). Die spätere macht es scheinen, wie es ein Wert, wie es normalerweise kostet 159,00. Bei 112, dass8217s 3,73 pro Tag. Der Preis für die drei Punkte, die ich oben aufgeführt: 94 Cent pro Tag. That8217s ein Einsparungen von zwischen 67-758230 oder zwischen 689.85 und 1018.35 pro Jahr. Der typische Fall für MLM ist, dass die Qualität der MLM-Produkt ist besser als alle vergleichen Sie es. Klar, wenn beide Produkte identisch waren Honda Accords Sie wouldn8217t zahlen mehr. Dadurch wird der Druck auf die MLM zu beweisen, dass sein Produkt deutlich besser ist. Dies ist, wo sie mieten ein paar medizinische Fachleute als wissenschaftliche Experten, aber die Realität ist, dass sie bezahlt werden Sprecher. Was Sie wirklich wissen müssen, wenn es darum geht, Vitamine ist, dass there8217s eine Non-Profit-Organisation, denen Sie vertrauen können: die United States Pharmacopeia. You8217ll finden Sie diese Produkte haben USP Verified Dietary Supplement Mark auf sie. I8217ve sprach mit einer Menge von Apothekern und sie alle sagen, dass dies der Ort, um zu starten und beenden Sie Ihre Suche nach Ergänzung quality8230 aber viele zugelassen zu mir, dass Standards sind in der Regel so gut sie don8217t suchen sie selbst und nur kaufen die billigste generische Marke. Absorption von Youngevity und anderen Vitaminen Einige Kommentatoren haben versucht, diesen Punkt über die USP zu ignorieren. Wenn sie tun, sagen sie oft, dass billige Vitamine aren8217t gut absorbiert oder dass Flüssigkeit besser absorbiert. It8217s beachtenswert, dass es keine Studien auf Youngevity8217s Produkte Absorption. Wenn Youngevity8217s Produkte besser absorbieren als ihre Konkurrenten und dies ist in der Tat ein wichtiger Faktor, warum gibt es Null-Analyse auf es Eine andere Sache im Auge zu behalten ist, dass, wenn Forscher und Wissenschaftler erforschen Vitamine, oft don8217t wählen flüssige Quellen oder sogar die Marke von Vitaminen überhaupt. Warum würden Wissenschaftlerinnen und Wissenschaftler immer wieder wählen, um alle Schwierigkeiten der Durchführung von Studien mit Produkten, die bekanntermaßen schlecht sind, zu gehen. Die Antwort ist, dass sie aren8217t mit schlechten Produkten. 8220Q. Meine Frau zahlt eine Prämie für flüssige Vitamine und Mineralstoffe, die angeblich besser vom Körper aufgenommen werden. Sind sie wert die Kosten D. P. Sacramento, Calif. A. Wahrscheinlich nicht, es sei denn, Ihre Frau hat Schwierigkeiten, feste Nahrungsergänzungsmittel zu schlucken. In der Theorie, sollten flüssige Ergänzungen besser durch den Magen absorbiert werden, da sie bereits aufgelöst. Aber es gibt wenig Forschung, um diese Idee zu begründen. Und zumindest einige Beweise haben keine sinnvolle Differenz.8221 I8217d fügen, dass, auch wenn sie Mühe schlucken feste Nahrungsergänzungsmittel, there8217s erstaunliche Technologie namens Pille Zerkleinerung, die seit Jahren existiert hat, die dies löst. Wenn es darum geht, Youngevity es lohnt, im Auge zu behalten die 8220Can I Pay Less für etwas von ähnlichen Wert 8221 Spiel. Allerdings ist vielleicht die größte Sache zu beachten, dass die jüngsten Forschungen zeigt, dass Ergänzungen mehr schaden als nützen können. Es macht einfach keinen Sinn, mehr Geld für etwas, das doesn8217t scheinen zu arbeiten, in den ersten Platz zu verbringen. Die (Vitamin - und Ergänzungs-) Industrie basiert auf Anekdoten, die Leute sagen, dass ich dies nehme, und es macht mich besser, sagte Dr. Edgar Miller, Professor für Medizin und Epidemiologie an der Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine und Co-Autor des Editorials . Seine verewigt. Aber wenn Sie es auf die Probe gestellt, theres keine Hinweise auf Nutzen auf lange Sicht. Es kann nicht verhindern, dass Sterblichkeit, Schlaganfall oder Herzinfarkt. Viele der klügsten Menschen in der Welt haben die Forschung auf Hunderten und Tausenden von Menschen getan und haven8217t alles, was hilft, und sogar festgestellt, dass es gefährlich sein könnte. 8220Doctor8221 Joel Wallach It8217s erwähnenswert, dass Youngevity mit 8220Doctor8221 Joel Wallach verbunden ist. Wer ist er Nach Skepdic ist er Tierarzt und Heilpraktiker. Die American Cancer Society fasst zusammen, was Sie über Naturopathy wissen müssen. 8220Verfügbar wissenschaftliche Beweise nicht behaupten, dass naturopathic Medizin Krebs oder jede andere Krankheit heilen kann, da praktisch keine Studien über die Naturheilkunde als Ganzes veröffentlicht worden sind.8221 Update: Als ich den Artikel schrieb, schien es wie eine sichere Wette, dass die meisten Menschen betrachten würde Einer der größten Non-Profitscharity mit dem Ziel, die Welt der Krebs seriös zu befreien, aber I8217ve erhielt ein paar Kommentare von Menschen, wahrscheinlich Youngevity Distributoren, die zu der Wirkung von 8220Dieser Kerl glaubt, die American Cancer Society, jetzt weiß ich, ich can8217t Vertrauen ihm.8221 Es gibt zahlreiche andere ehrbare Quellen, die den Punkt bilden, daß die Naturheilkunde quackery ist, nicht unterstützt durch die bewährte wissenschaftliche Methode. There8217s eine Liste von sechs akkreditierten Naturheilkundlichen Schulen (zum Zeitpunkt dieses Updates) und nicht einer von ihnen ist mit einer Universität verbunden, die Sie wahrscheinlich gehört haben. Wenn Sie einer der wenigen ungeraden Menschen, die gegen die American Cancer Society sind, ist der Punkt über Naturheilkunde quackery ist auch durch andere Reputalbe Institutionen etabliert. Ich liebe Tiere und meine Tante ist ein Tierarzt, aber ich habe keinen Rat für meine eigene Gesundheit von einem Tierarzt und Person, die ihre Behandlungen auf Dinge, die haven8217t wissenschaftlich bewiesen basiert. Es gibt Hunderte Ärzte in ein paar Quadrat-Meilen von wo ich lebe, die hunderte Male mehr qualifiziert sind, dass Wallach. I8217d legte Ernährungswissenschaftler als mehr qualifizierte, wenn es darum geht, Ergänzung als gut. Ich setze 8220Doctor8221 in Anführungsstrich, wenn ich auf Wallach beziehe, weil he8217s ein Doktor in dem Sinn ist, dass meine Frau, die ein Doktorat in der Apotheke hat (she8217s ein Apotheker) ein Doktor ist. Es ist ein schöner Titel für ihre Ausbildung, aber sie doesn8217t den Doktor-Titel verwenden, noch jemand anderes. Dieser skepdische Artikel über Wallach ist sehr illuminierend, da er in verschiedene Possen geht, die er im Laufe der Jahre getan hat. Es ist klar, dass he8217s misrepresenting sich und machen Lügen (Frau in China, die zu 2508221 lebte) funktioniert Youngevity Arbeit Sorry, aber Youngevity schließt sich die lange Liste der MLM-Produkte mit Distributoren behaupten, dass es Wunder Gesundheit Kuren sind. Warum machen Menschen solche Ansprüche Wenn Sie heute nichts anderes lesen, lesen Sie hierzu: Nein, Ihr MLM-Gesundheitsprodukt nicht 8220Work8221 Über Clemson8217s Institut für Nutraceutical Research (INR) (Update: 3012013) Ein paar Kommentatoren (meistens Distributoren) haben gefragt, wo Ich stehe auf dem 8220Clemson study8221 auf Youngevity Produkten. Lesen der Clemson Pressemitteilung über die Beziehung mit Youngevity ist interessant. Hier8217s ein Schlüsselsatz: 8220Clemson8217s Institut für Nutraceutical Forschung Ziele sind ein größeres Vertrauen in die Produktqualität, Wirksamkeit und Verbesserung der Nachfrage der Verbraucher nach qualitativ hochwertigen nutraceutical Produkte.8221 (Schwerpunkt 8220enhance Verbrauchernachfrage8221 ist mein eigenes) Sie wissen, was ein anderes Wort für 8220enhancing Verbraucher demand8221 Ist Marketing. Mit anderen Worten Clemson8217s Ziel ist die Vermarktung von nutraceutical Produkte, und Youngevity zahlt ihnen Geld dafür. Immer hört man von der reichen Person, deren Kind isn8217t all das helle, aber er bekam in die oberste Schule sowieso Die Schule gerade passiert, um eine schöne Bibliothek von einer reichen Familie gespendet bekommen. Die Parallelen sind hier offensichtlich. Am 5. Februar 2013. Ich stellte fest, dass die Website für Clemson8217s Institut für Nutraceutical Research ist nicht funktionsfähig. Einige können argumentieren, dass ich die falsche URL habe, aber wenn ich das mache, tut Google auch von diesem Screenshot. Ab diesem Update, 1. März 2013, ist die Website noch nicht funktionsfähig. Neben der Website wird für fast einen Monat eine Google-Suche für Clemson Institute of Nutraceutical Research gibt fast alle Ergebnisse für Youngevity. Ich konnte keine anderen Forschungen finden, die es von Youngevity abgesehen hat, was eine offensichtliche rote Fahne ist. Mit der Website wird seit Monaten fehlende Informationen über andere Studien, und Clemson8217s eigenen Versagen, es zu erkennen, ist, dass es schwer ist, das Institut und damit diese Forschung ernst nehmen. Mit diesem sagte, ich fühle es ist wichtig, die Clemson 8220research8221 selbst adressieren. In diesem Sinne, let8217s einen Blick auf die Pressemitteilung von AL International. Eines der ersten Dinge, dass knackt der Seite ist, dass sie die Arbeit als klinische Forschung zu klassifizieren. Allerdings ist es aus der Studie klar, dass dies Laboratorium Forschung auf Reagenzgläser und nicht klinische Forschung am Menschen durchgeführt. Wenn Sie etwas mischen, dass grundlegende, es8217s schwer, kein Vertrauen in den Rest der 8220study.8221 Viel von der Pressemitteilung konzentrierte sich auf Produktsicherheit. Während wir alle sollten sich um die Sicherheit, Vitamine sind in der Regel als sicher, so dass diese Forschung ist nicht notwendig. Wenn Sie eine Überprüfung eines 200.000 Autos sagen, dass es Menschen von Punkt A zu Punkt B ohne explodieren zu lesen, würden Sie wahrscheinlich misstrauisch, warum sie auf etwas, das auch billige Autos in der Lage sein sollten, zu tun. Sie kaufen einen Ferrari, weil es spontan explodiert, Sie kaufen es, weil es einen Vorteil gegenüber anderen Autos zu liefern. Der andere Teil des Artikels konzentrierte sich auf die Abtötung von Krebszellen in einem Teströhrchen (d. h. Zellkulturen). Auf der Oberfläche, scheint dies wie zwingende Informationen. Jedoch vor sieben Jahren fanden wir acai getötete Krebszellen in einem Reagenzglas. Nicht nur Acai, aber nach diesem USDA Artikel eine Reihe von Lebensmitteln töten Krebs in Reagenzgläsern. Heck, sogar Topf verlangsamt Krebs in den Röhrchen. Die wichtige Sache zum Mitnehmen ist, dass viele Dinge, einschließlich Vitamine töten Krebs in Reagenzgläsern. Clemson konnte eine Menge Zeit gespart haben, wenn sie im Geschäft des Marketings Youngevity, indem sie an der vorhandenen Forschung weren. Diese US-Nachrichtenartikel: Aktuelle klinische Studien, zum Beispiel, dass Ergänzungen von einzelnen Nährstoffen wie Vitamine B, C und E und das Mineral Selen nicht, wie einst gedacht, verhindern, dass chronische oder altersbedingte Krankheiten einschließlich Prostata und andere Arten von Krebs. Einige Substanzen, wie Grüner Tee und Ingwer, scheinen potenziell zu verhindern oder zu helfen, Krebs zu behandeln, aber sie können auch tatsächlich mit der Behandlung oder andere schwere Nebenwirkungen stören. Mittlerweile haben unzählige Substanzen, die das Wachstum von Krebszellen in einem Reagenzglas töten oder verlangsamen, nicht den gleichen Erfolg bei Menschen gezeigt. So Youngevity, und es8217s verschiedene Zutaten sind, um die Liste der 8220countless Stoffe, die töten oder verlangsamen das Wachstum von Krebszellen in einem Reagenzglas8221 hinzugefügt, aber 8220 haben nicht den gleichen Erfolg im Menschen gezeigt. Hier8217s ein Gedanke von einem Apotheker, den ich kenne und vertraue: 8220Bleach tötet Krebszellen in einem Test tube8230 I8217m nicht zu trinken es bald bald.8221 Sie hätte mit dem letzten Teil scherzten, aber der Punkt ist klar: Wir sind nicht Reagenzgläser. Nur wenige Reagenzgläser lesen diesen Artikel8230 und sie aren8217t besorgt über Krebs. Viele weitere Menschen lesen diesen Artikel und ich vermute, sie sind mehr daran interessiert, dass die Forschung nicht zeigen, Erfolg für sie. Selbst Youngevity8217s eigenen Broschüre über die Studie kommt mit einem Haftungsausschluss: Clemson University unterstützt nur die statistischen Daten und Analysen zur Verfügung gestellt hier. Die Clemson University unterstützt Youngevity oder eines seiner Produkte nicht, unterstützt oder unterstützt sie nicht. Clemson University und ihre Forscher sind nicht in irgendeiner Weise mit Youngevity Essential Life Sciences verbunden. Als Kommentator sagte Vogel es: 8220Es haben Sie es. Nach Youngevity, Clemsons nur Beitrag zu dieser irreführenden Forschung war die statistische Analyse der Daten. Sie nicht die Daten selbst.8221 Allerdings I8217d nehmen es einen Schritt weiter und schlagen vor, dass die Broschüre selbst ist ein Verstoß gegen die FDA-Regeln für die Vermarktung Ergänzungen. Die FDA hat diesen Warnbrief an Nature8217s Pearl geschickt. Im Einzelnen heißt es: "Wenn wissenschaftliche Veröffentlichungen kommerziell vom Verkäufer eines Produktes verwendet werden, um das Produkt den Verbrauchern zugänglich zu machen, können solche Veröffentlichungen Beweise für die beabsichtigte Verwendung des Produkts sein. Beispielsweise wird unter 21 CFR 101.93 (g) (2) (iv) (C) ein Zitat einer Veröffentlichung oder eines Verweises in der Etikettierung eines Produkts als ein Anspruch auf die Behandlung oder Vorbeugung von Krankheiten angesehen, wenn das Zitat auf eine Verwendung von Krankheiten verweist , Und wenn das Zitat im Zusammenhang mit der Etikettierung als Ganzes die Behandlung oder Verhütung einer Krankheit impliziert.8221 Diese Broschüre mit 8220anti-cancer8221, die im Titel und in der gesamten Broschüre prominent vorkommt, scheint ein Beweis für den Verwendungszweck des Produkts zu sein. Die kleine Box am Ende der Broschüre lesen 8220Diese Produkte sind nicht dazu gedacht, zu diagnostizieren, zu behandeln, zu heilen oder zu verhindern, jede disease8221 sollte Ihnen sagen, alles, was Sie wissen müssen über Youngevity und Krebs klar und in ungewiss. Schließlich warnt die New York Times vor dem Lesen etwas in diese Studien. Es ist ein sehr wichtiger Artikel für alle Verbraucher aller Gesundheit Produkte zu lesen und zu verstehen. Endeffekt . Clemson duplizierte Forschung, die bereits weithin bekannt war, um irrelevant in einem Versuch zu sein, Marketing für Youngevity zur Verfügung zu stellen. Sie taten keine klinischen Versuche (Tests im Menschen) des Produktes, vermutlich weil sie im Voraus wussten, dass es nicht das positive Ergebnis gegeben hätte, das Youngevity bezahlt hat. Wenn Youngevity eine Pressemitteilung sagt, 8220Die INR ist ein nationaler Führer in der Ernährungsforschung und eine der am meisten angesehenen Organisationen auf dem Gebiet der Phytonährstoffe, Vitamine und Mineralien8221 ist es klar, dass es komplette Rinder Kot ist. Youngevity und abgereicherter Boden Es scheint, dass Youngevity coaching seine Händler zu sagen, dass today8217s Boden an Vitaminen und Mineralien erschöpft ist, um die Nachfrage nach ihrem Produkt zu schaffen. Es klingt plausibel, bis man sich etwas tiefer betrachtet. Hinter der Täuschung gibt es ein Nugget der Wahrheit, das ist, was sie verwenden, um Sie verkaufen diese falsche Linie des Denkens. Es gibt einige glaubwürdige Informationen, dass einige Boden ist mangelhaft von Vitaminen nach diesem wissenschaftlichen amerikanischen Artikel, der ein paar Quellen zitiert. Es ist alles andere als schlüssig. Das Problem 1 mit dem Argument, aber um des Arguments willen behaupten wir, es sei schlüssig. Es gibt viel mehr Probleme. Ein Youngevity Verteiler, der dieses aufbaut, hat die schlechte Schlußfolgerung gebildet, daß, weil wir weniger erhalten konnten, bevor wir aren8217t genug erhalten. Wenn McDonalds schneiden Sie die Kalorien der Double Quarter Pounder Sie wahrscheinlich wouldn8217t schauen, um mehr zu machen, um für 8220a deficiency.8221 It8217s durchaus möglich, dass wir mehr als wir brauchten in der Vergangenheit und immer noch genug (was ich in einem Minute). That8217s Problem 2. Als nächstes gibt es genügend Forschung, dass Ergänzungen eine Verschwendung von Geld sind. Diese Analyse von Dutzenden von verschiedenen Studien auf Hunderttausende von Menschen. Verschwörungstheoretiker werden sagen, dass Artikel voreingenommen oder erstellt von einer 8220-Krankheit Industrie8221, aber diese Menschen haben keine Antwort für warum die gleichen Ärzte und Wissenschaftler setzen ihre geliebten durch Chemotherapie, wenn Vitamine und Mineralien tatsächlich funktionierte. Zurück zum Artikel, der Schlussfolgerung war: 8220Die großen Körper der angesammelten Beweise haben wichtige öffentliche Gesundheit und klinische Implikationen. Beweis genug ist, um gegen die routinemäßige Ergänzung zu beraten. Und wir sollten null und negative Befunde in die Tat umsetzen. Die Botschaft ist einfach: Die meisten Ergänzungen verhindern nicht, chronische Krankheiten oder Tod, ihre Verwendung ist nicht gerechtfertigt, und sie sollten vermieden werden. Diese Botschaft gilt insbesondere für die allgemeine Bevölkerung ohne eindeutige Hinweise auf Mikronährstoffdefizite, die in den USA und in anderen Ländern die meisten Ergänzungsnutzer darstellen. 8230 glauben wir, dass der Fall geschlossen Ergänzung der Ernährung von gut genährten Erwachsenen mit (meisten) Mineral-oder Vitaminpräparate hat keinen klaren Nutzen und könnte sogar schädlich sein. 8220 I8217 wurde der Schwerpunkt auf drei wichtige Teile gelegt. Ergänzungen werden nicht empfohlen.8230 Problem 3. In den USA und in anderen Ländern gibt es keine Hinweise auf Mikronährstoffdefizite. Dies unterstützt den Punkt, den ich oben in Problem 28230 getroffen haben wir genug bekommen. In der Tat, die Menschen, die in Youngevity suchen sind wahrscheinlich diejenigen, die gesundheitsbewusst sind und damit eher zu einer gesunden Ernährung, die frei von Mängeln ist. Der letzte Punkt, den der Artikel macht, ist, dass Ergänzungen sogar schädlich sein könnten. That8217s Problem 4. Sie donl217t scheinen, sich selbst zu helfen, aber Sie können sogar verletzen sich. I8217ve gehört Menschen versuchen, diesen Artikel und die Wissenschaft Rabatt. Sie tun alles können (wie die 8220sickness industry8221, die ich oben erwähnt habe). Ich kann nicht verstehen, wie diese Leute an irgendeine Wissenschaft glauben und nicht an andere. Sie nehmen die ganze Sache über den verarmten Boden als gegeben, obwohl dort viel weniger Analyse davon und werfen die ganze Wissenschaft über Vitamine und Mineralien nicht hilfreich. Es ist, als wollten sie an Ergänzung glauben, aber nicht an Multiplikation. Es macht einfach keinen Sinn zu wählen und wählen Sie willkürlich. Nun let8217s bekommen Problem 5. Zurück in der Scientific American Artikel präsentierten sie eine Lösung für die erschöpfte Boden Problem. Es wurde nicht ergänzt. 82208230 vorgenannte Pestizide und Dünger zugunsten der organischen Anbau Methoden ist gut für den Boden, das Erzeugnis und seine Verbraucher. Diejenigen, die die nahrhaftesten Obst - und Gemüsesorten kaufen möchten, sollten regelmäßig von den örtlichen Biobauern kaufen.8221 Und dann gibt es Problem 6 zu diesem Argument. Es doesn8217t geben jemand einen Grund zu kaufen Youngevity8217s überteuert Ergänzungen (mit der oben genannten Analyse). Die Hauptstudie zitiert, untersuchten keine Messungen von Nährstoffmengen im Boden8221 8220Die Autoren haben nicht gefolgert, dass der offensichtliche Rückgang der Nährstoffmengen auf die Bodenverarmung zurückzuführen war8230, dass ein Unterschied in den zu pflanzenden Stämmen und nicht zur Verarmung des Bodens wahrscheinlich war Ursache des scheinbaren Rückgang der Nährstoffwerte8221 8220Einige der Nährstoffe, die scheinbar sank, waren nur geringfügig niedriger, was nicht wahrscheinlich ist, klinisch relevant8221 einen Apfel aus den 1950er Jahren haben könnte höheren Ebenen von Alar und DDT und andere verbotene Pestizide Verbesserungen im Transport zu ermöglichen Besseren Zugang zu einer Vielzahl von Früchten als in den 1950er Jahren. Die Diät in den fünfziger Jahren war nicht sehr gut (8220potatoes und Eisberg lettuce8221 zitiert), dort ist viel mehr Ernährungsbewusstsein heute. 82208230 Krankheiten durch diätetische Ernährungsmängel (wie Skorbut, Rachitis, Beri Beri, Pellagra, etc.) waren nicht ungewöhnlich in den 50er Jahren, aber jetzt wurden in den USA aufgrund von Verbesserungen in der Lebenshaltung und Ernährung praktisch ausradiert.8221 Über Youngevity8217s Eltern Firma Eine Sache, die aus der Clemson-Forschung herauskam, die ich ursprünglich übersehen hatte (ich fühlte, dass es wichtiger war, sich auf das Produkt zu konzentrieren), ist, dass das Unternehmen von AL International gehört, einem börsennotierten Unternehmen, das ein Penny-Lager ist. Am 25. Januar, als die Clemson 8220research8221 Pressemitteilung herauskam, lag die Aktie bei 16,5 Cent pro Aktie (ich didn8217t realisieren die Börse nahm ha8217pennies). Der Gesamtwert des Unternehmens betrug 65 Millionen Dollar, weniger als einige Athleten Zeichen für mehr als 2-3 Jahre. Aktienpreise variieren und nach dem Clemson-Marketing, Youngevity hat das gewünschte Ergebnis, eine signifikante Bump im Aktienkurs wie Penny-Aktien können manchmal tun. (Anmerkung: sie können genau so schnell fallen und sind nicht sehr gute Investitionen.) Ich versuchte, einen angemessenen Bericht zu Youngevity zu geben, der auf seinen Produkten im Allgemeinen basiert, aber als I8217ve in jedem MLM fand, das die Organisation normalerweise zentriert wird Um ein paar Scharlatane. Update: Ich wurde auf dieses große erste Person-Konto mit Youngevity hingewiesen. Es ist extrem lang und detailliert, aber lohnt sich Ihre Zeit, wenn Sie erwägen den Kauf dieser Produkte oder sich in das Geschäft. Der Autor wurde wirklich ein Ernährungsberater, weil Youngevity8217s Wallach war verleumderisch Ärzte machen sie scheinen untrustworthy alle, warum behaupten, dass ihre 8220glaziale Milch8221 war die Antwort. Hier sind einige gute Zitate: Ich glaube nicht, daß ich an die vielen Tatsachen und Zahlen glaubte, die von meinen Vortragenden auf mich geworfen wurden. Ich ging auf die Behauptungen zu, die Wallach gemacht hatte, indem ich nach dem Beweismaterial fragte, was die Entdeckungen von Wallach8217 nicht nur waren Ungenau, aber sie waren nichts weiter als sehr kluge Lügen, entworfen, um verwundbare Menschen in ein falsches Gefühl der Sicherheit zu bringen, um sie von ihrem Geld zu befreien.8221 8220Ich war auch auf eine Handvoll Leute gestoßen, die von der Kirche angefahren worden waren Die behaupten, sie von ihren gesundheitlichen Bedingungen zu heilen, viele von ihnen, die keinen Nutzen erhalten hatten, aber zu schüchtern oder zu schämen waren, um ihre Geschichte gehört zu werden. Lustigerweise waren es nur diejenigen, die aus irgendeinem Grund geglaubt hatten, dass sie geheilt worden waren, deren Zeugnisse in Sitzungen abgegeben wurden und auf der Fülle von Werbematerialien gedruckt wurden.8221 82208230 Ich sollte einfach aufstehen und frage Wallach, warum er Menschen irreführte Und ihn vor dem Publikum (von mehreren hundert Menschen) und den Kameras zu hinterfragen. Ich habe natürlich, was zu meiner schnellen Entfernung führte (einschließlich physisch herausgeschleppt und eine Treppe hinabgeworfen) 82308221 Die Geschichte ist wirklich erstaunlich und sollte es sehr klar, dass es am besten zu vermeiden, Youngevity und seine Marketing-Taktiken, die aren8217t richtig Unterstützt durch echte Beweise. E-Mail (und teilen) Diese Levi sagte: 8220Der Link ist für die Meldung illegaler Verkauf von Ergänzungen. Sie arent illegal und ich verkaufe nichts8221 Sie sind illegal, wenn vermarktet als Behandlungen für medizinische Bedingungen wie Restless-Bein-Syndrom, Sodbrennen, etc. Ich don8217t glauben, wenn Sie sagen, dass Sie aren8217t ein Verkäufer, aber egal, weil Sie didn8217t verlassen alle identifizierenden Informationen . So ist das folgende beste Ding, gerade eine Google-Suche zu tun und einen der vielen anderen Youngevity Verteiler zu finden, die illegal die Produkte als Drogen vermarkten und sie zur FDA berichten. Jeder dumme grundlose medizinische Behandlung Anspruch, wie die Art, die Sie gemacht, sollte einen Bericht an die FDA zu verdienen. Es ist leicht, anonym und bürgerlich. Fda. govSafetyReportaProblemucm059315.htmsthash. rqIirb4M. dpuf Levi sagte: 8220I Do Do not Doctor, aber diese Dinge verbreiten durch Mundpropaganda, wenn sie für jemanden arbeiten.8221 Sure klingt mir wie you8217re spielen Arzt. Diese Produkte don8217t 8220work8221, und trotzdem, sind sie durch verzweifelte Ausbeutung Parasiten horen für ein Pyramidensystem verbreitet. Ich don8217t Unterstützung beider Seiten nur halten einen offenen Geist, aber wenn Sie sagen, dass Vitamine und Mineralien suppliments sind eine Verschwendung von Geld, warum dann Pharma-Unternehmen setzen Magnesiumstearat in einigen von dort Produkte, seine eine Verbindung mit zwei Stearinsäuren und Magnesium. Stearinsäure ist eine gesättigte Fettsäure, die in vielen Nahrungsmitteln, einschließlich tierischen und pflanzlichen Fetten und Ölen, gefunden wird. Es gibt andere Produkte da draußen jetzt mit höheren Erfolgsraten auf Krebs dann die üblichen Chemo-und Strahlentherapie aber nicht von den großen Pharma-Unternehmen unterstützt werden, weil es entweder nicht ein Gewinn nicht in ihm oder sie can8217t Muster it. this ist einer von vielen Youtu. beAYiouIQoXgk Signifikant höhere Erfolgsquote und alles, was sie tun können, ist versuchen, ihn zu schließen. Wenn es andere alternative Methoden der Heilung nichts dann, warum don8217t die Pharma-Unternehmen an Bord mit diesen alternativen Behandlungen, um Menschen zu helfen. NICHT GENUG GELD. Wenn Sie glauben, Vitamine und Mineralien sind eine Verschwendung von Geld, wenden Sie sich bitte Ihre Kritik an die Quellen, die ich zitieren. Ich glaube, diese Quellen sehr seriös zu sein, vor allem die wissenschaftliche Zeitschrift ein. Ich denke, sie könnten Ihnen eine bessere Antwort auf Ihre Frage, als ich kann. Ich verbrachte etwa 45 Sekunden nach oben Magnesium Stearate und ich fand diese gut-zitierte Forschung in Wikipedia, 8220Magnesium Stearate wird oft als Anti-Adhärent in der Herstellung von medizinischen Tabletten, Kapseln und Pulver verwendet. In dieser Hinsicht ist die Substanz auch brauchbar, weil sie Schmiereigenschaften aufweist, wodurch verhindert wird, daß Bestandteile an der Herstellungseinrichtung während der Kompression von chemischen Pulvern in feste Tabletten haften. Magnesiumstearat ist das am häufigsten verwendete Schmiermittel für Tabletten. Magnesiumstearat kann auch in trockenen Beschichtungsprozessen effizient eingesetzt werden.8221 Bitte don8217t Schrei, 8220Wikipedia isn8217t eine vertrauenswürdige Quelle8221, es sei denn, Sie können zeigen, dass alle gut-zitierten Quellen auch falsch sind8230 und enthalten, warum sie falsch sind. Zumindest sollten wir feststellen können, dass das Magnesium in pharmazeutischen Unternehmen8217 Produkte aus Wirksamkeitsgründen enthalten ist. That8217s important, because you seem to imply that magnesium stearate was included because it helps with the medical condition. The video that you included is from a video produced by Burzynski. If you step away from the biased, inflammatory, and anecdotal information in the video, you can do a little research you can find much better information. For example, the video starts with grainy video from 1996. The simple math says that8217s 20 years ago. It shows a complaint about chemotherapy rather than trying to show a better way. That8217s always a bad sign, especially because no one says, 8220Hey, I8217d love to get some chemotherapy today8221 It8217s the not the only source8230 there were so many legitimate sources complaining about him years ago that I wrote about the Burzynski Cancer Clinic Scam . I8217m not a fan of silencing free speech, but this seems to me like yelling 8220Fire8221 in crowded theaters in order to boost your sales of fire extinguishers. Be careful about suggesting that Burzynski has a higher success rate. Let8217s take that discussion we can have on my Burzynski article since it isn8217t related Youngevity. Barry Mason said: I dont support either side just keep an open mind but if you say that vitamins and minerals suppliments (sic) are a waste of money then why do pharmaceutical companies put magnesium stearate in some of there (sic) products. Why would you open with a question that has nothing to do with the topic at hand Magnesium stearate is an excipient widely used in the supplement industry but so what Barry Mason said: There are other products out there now having higher success rates on cancer then (sic) the usual chemo and radiation treatments but not be supported by the big pharmaceutical companies because there is either not a not (sic) profit in it or they cant pattern (sic) it. Oh boy, here we go. So you bypass the subject at hand (Youngevity) to focus on baseless claims of secret cancer cures and dumb conspiracy theory BS Do you not realize that any company that could market a cure for cancer would make hundreds of billions of dollars, if not trillions For every company that would stand to lose from such a development (i. e. by seeing their older less effective cancer drugs become obsolete), another company would stand to make a fortune. Do you also not realize that if a company had a cancer cure and decided to suppress it, they would have to ensure the silence of hundreds if not thousands of employees and scientists, who would in effect be sentencing their loved ones and themselves to an avoidable death Such a scenario is an impossibility, obviously. Barry Mason said: this is one of many youtu. beAYiouIQoXgk Significantly higher success rate and all they could do is try to close him down. You cant seriously believe that a quack like Burzynski (the piss-peptide charlatan) has a secret cure for cancer. He has been repeatedly sanctioned because he is a dangerous parasite, not because he has any unique knowledge about cancer or how to treat it. To make matters worse, you suggested above that Pharma companies suppress certain alleged cancer cures in part because they cant be patented (and therefore profited from), yet Burzynski patented his fake piss-based treatment (which does nothing but drain money from desperate patients and their families) and he has profited from it enormously (and completely undeservedly). googlepatentsUS6013278 There is no logic or truth to any of the things you are saying, and worst of all, it has nothing to do with Youngevity. In addition to your comment being vapid and paranoid, it couldnt be more irrelevant. Barry Mason said: If there are other alternative methods of curing anything then why dont the pharmaceutical companies get on board with these alternative treatments to help people. Because there are no alternative methods of curing cancer. If there existed an alternative method (whatever thats supposed to mean) that was proven to cure cancer, it would instantly cease to be alternative and would simply be called medicine and if such a thing existed, Pharma companies would be on board in a heartbeat. You are full of crap. don8217t talk about it if you don8217t even know what it is. I thought I showed that I significantly know what it is. If not, surely it8217s well covered in the 1140 comments, right The 8216thrust8217 of this article is about MLM8217s being 8216scams8217 amp specifically Youngevity as one of many. The saying 8220a fool amp his money8221 applies to MLM8217s in general. Wallach is a great marketeer for his company. The FDA, BBB, amp other pertinent agencies have purvue here. So far, what he8217s doing is legal. So, buyer beware of anything at all times which means do your homework, otherwise, be 8216scammed8217. I8217m very familiar with Wallach from his early start amp found him narcissistic, mixing fact with fiction, like a Tom Brown novel. We do need foods which contain nutrients to live. Net search ,8217Joel Wallach fraud8217 for history amp beware, some are distributor fronts. Hi, Just wanted to say. I was introduced to the products and started to buy and set up an autoship for 9 months. I did it as a favor to my brother, then one day my mother calls me and tells me that she is in alot of pain that she can not sleep at night. so you can imagine the heart wrenching conversation. I though to myself maybe that crap that my brother is selling me can help. turn out she was suffering osteoporosis and vertigo. seeing that I had the stuff stocked in my bathroom cabinet I sent some of the products I had and a couple of more that DR. Wallach and Dr. Glidden suggested to use. in about one months time she was doing a lot better. today she is at 90 better. she was on several drugs that were doing more harm than good now she is off of them. look I don8217t know much about MLM but seeing how it has turned my mothers health around it is a blessing that I found youngevity. since then I have introduced youngevity to about 42 people 3 of which are my family members. one sis for 15 yrs suffering from Fybromyalga now after 3 months is 100 better. another sister had C. O.P. D. is off her drugs and doing 100 better. My brother who had 3 heart attacks after the age 35 unable to run overexert himself nor unable to have sex with his wife in fear of a heart attack, is now running 5 miles a day working out and I imagine performing well with his wife. sure i still purchase these products and became a member. just like everything to get the most out of a business you have to work at it. but as far as my family they come first. when I saw and heard on the turn around with them. there is nothing more I like doing is to share the benefits of taking the products. Truly do what Dr Wallach and DR. Glidden says to do for your health and that of your family members. they and you will get better. It8217s very simple. We need 90 essential nutrients. Omit one and it8217s like omitting an ingredient when baking a cake. I haven8217t seen the 90 essential nutrients mentioned outside of Youngevity. Where8217s your non-Youngevity scientific source of the 90 Also, you can omit some ingredients in cakes and they8217ll be fine8230 just like people. As this unbiased scientific journal says. 8220Enough Is Enough: Stop Wasting Money on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements.8221 You are right, that journal makes it very simple. Steve said: 8220Its very simple. We need 90 essential nutrients. Omit one and its like omitting an ingredient when baking a cake.8221 We don8217t need 90 essential nutrients, and what we are talking about is nothing at all liking baking a cake 8212 I detest such worthless analogies. Funny, one of your rival MLMs (Yevo) claims that there are only 43 essential nutrients. What a dilemma. Which idiotic snake oil pyramid scheme to believe yevo43 Must read my names are RAYMOND NATASHA. from US austin texas for a year now i have been living with this virus called DIABETES All thanks to Dr ENATO CURING MY DIABETES, i do not have much to say, but with all my life i will for ever be grateful to him and God Almighty for using Dr ENATO to reach me when i thought it is all over, today i am a happy man after the medical doctor have confirmed my status Negative, i have never in my life believed that DIABETES could be cure by any herbal medicine. so i want to use this medium to reach other persons who have this disease by testifying the wonderful herbs and power of Dr ENATO that all is not lost yet, try and contact him Editor8217s note: Contact information removed. I feel like uniformed people like Raymond Natasha are the Youngevity natural audience. Diabetes is not a virus. Anyone who actually has diabetes should know that. If not, we should probably blame 8220Dr ENATO8221 for spreading false information to his patients, right There8217s so much fundamentally wrong there that I don8217t think there8217s anything salvageable from Raymond8217s comment. 8221 WHAT IS IT GOT TO DO WITH YOUNGEVITY AND DR WALLACH PRODUCT. By the way..Giora..would you mind to ak some one who you explained here have been cured with Youngevity, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM, the rational for doing this is just I really like to know what youngevity did not work on me I wonder why I can give my email address and like to speak to any one who had been cured by Dr wallach8217s product please (would be VERY GREATFUL) BAT, I can put you in touch with individuals that have resolved their issues with the Youngevity products. Hello B A T. If you8217d like some Youngevity testimonies, directly from the horses8217 mouths, please feel free to email me and I8217d be more than happy to share their contacts for you so you can chat with them. Dear Tariie please send me your email then I can email you 8211 I have tried youngevity products in the past 8211 It did not help me at all 8211 so talking to some one who are distributor and able to answer me trully would be a great help I treat my high blood pressure with minerals to avoid the bad side affects of drugs, since I8217ve learned most high blood pressure is caused by mineral deficiency. I should say I learned this from Dr. Wallach and decided to test with good quality minerals I already had available, not youngivity products To my amazement I was able to reduce my meds and am now drug and high blood pressure free. In order for this to work you must get the formula and dosage right. What I like about Dr. Wallachs products is that all that is done for you for optimum results. Most people don8217t know or take the time to calculate proper dosage. For example clicking on your link and calculating what I would need using opti-min tab, considering available calcium in calcium carbonate per 100mg (that is allowing that 100 mg is citrate form which is unlikely but I8217m giving them the bebefit of the doubt) I would need 15 60 tab bottles a month. So at 180 count would cost me 240.00 at list price per month, and that is just for the calcium required. I can get the healthy start pak of 90 essenials for kess than have that and meet all mineral needs. That8217s alot cheaper than the mineralsI had available and dought on my own and alot cheaper than your recommendation as well. To my research youngivity seems to be an excellent value if you are serious about treating with vitamins and minerals. I am not affiliated with this company but I plan on buying the products as I cannot find a better value. Regards You can only treat vitamin and mineral deficiency conditions with vitamins and minerals. These diseases are very rare as you can see from the previous scientific article. The Calcium Lie II: What Your Doctor Still Doesn8217t Know Kindle Edition by Robert Thompson (Author), Kathleen Barnes (Author) take a look at this book regarding Calcium This isn8217t a good place to debate nutrition. If you want an article on that topic to continue the discussion, please refer to Should You Be Buying Supplements also on my site. Hi there, its amazing you stated that way, would you explain it to me, which other company you bought your calcium for Does not Youngevity have MLM association, so there will be charge on those, as the distributor need to get paid Michael Mendez (Youngevity Distributor) on July 20, 2016 at 9:52 am Hi Ann Meleluca, Amway and Herbal life all three my Father and mother tried but did little for there health. Youngevity moves their product in MLM forum. But my once I started her on the products she has had a complete turnaround. Sure there a little costly but the results are outstanding. I shared it with my sister How had COPD and another sister how Suffers with Fybromialga. both are doing 100 better. the only reason I bring this up is because Lazy Man and Money was pretty negitive about the company but I am a firm believer of you get what you paid for and If the company has opened in 22 countries I think that has a lot to say as well. they might be a little higher priced but my family has benefited greatly. I will do anything for my family and try anything and if the product works Im willing to pay the price. there is a process for everything once you follow that process you should expect a good outcome. As a distributor of Youngevity, I8217m not sure you are allowed to make medical claims that the products helped with Fibromyalgia. You do not always get what you pay for. Vitamin C is vitamin C8230 you don8217t get better vitamin C by overpaying for it. Overpaying for vitamin C doesn8217t mean it works better. Herbalife is in something like 180 countries, so by your logic they would be doing a lot of things right. You8217ve been following the news about how the FTC smacked them down for illegitimate practices, right Just like a Democrat if you do not like the conversation you delete it not cool. Editor8217s Note: All comments are held in moderation until I get a chance to review them. I8217m not going to get political, but read the previous 1100 comments to see that I approve all kinds of conversations. I just want to make it clear that if you are trying to exchange personal contact information here, I will delete it. This is intended to be an open forum for discussion about Youngevity, not a matchmaker for people to take discussion elsewhere. It isn8217t useful for the discussion here for people to have side conversations. Hi Giora, I ould like to get Seth phone number, I will call him, as howmany times I have read abouot youngevity how fantastic the rpducts are, but I had used them, but both products did not giving any cure or different, I am still in pain (fybormyalgi), I ended up having operation 3 months ago, as the advice given to me..just did not work, on the other hand I asked youngevities distributor such as:8221may i return the products if its not working. they said that 8221AS LONG AS THE PRODUCT STILL SEALED UNBROKEN PACKAGE8221..HOW ON EARTH I CAN GET REFUND THEN..SURELY THE BOTTLES HAVE TO BE OPENED TO TRY IT8230. EVEN BEFORE I HEARD DR WALLACH 10 BAD FOOD THEORY8221 I already doing it not only 10 but 12 bad food that I never eaten8230hence I must say. I have to believe the scientists which products have had several clinical trials..I am sure if what Dr Wallach theory are true, wouldn8217t all the rich people in state will buy his products and stopped the cancer..cardio vascular diseases, lots of them would like to leave longer..and money is not an obstacle for them..hence they still die (Steve Job, J. Collins) and who is going to be next 8211 please. plesae if you can..I would buy it of you. if you will guarantee a refund..I promise you I can get my health care professional to back up my condition..so you can see its legitimate. In the UK there are a few organic supplements products shops..they guarantee. if it is do not work..even if the bottle empty they will give the money back to the customers..they sale everything..but not like 90 nutrient where there lots in in..each product only content 3 4 ingredients..but they are all organic..the products help tiny bit..but do not cure. Hence youngevity slogan also stated :22 that you have not been verified by FDA, it does not cure nor treat any disease8230I would like to have a chat with some one who have fibromyalgia or scitica and now cure. what product do they buy from youngevity..then I will buy of you. I will try it. and if it is not working then you should provide me a refund, just like your question to 8221lazy man8221 what he is afraid of. my question to you as well: if the product is guarantee working..what are you afraid of to promise that guarantee for customer satisfaction THANK YOU..I am not stand by Lazy Man, I just normal person who are suffering badly and need to get better..so would like to try. but make sure that any one guarantee it works. at least in medical world (Doctors) pharmaceutical commpanies, they are s o honest that first thing patient should try to change their life style (eating healthy food, exercise, stop smoking, drinking excessably) if that is not works, then they help by giving prescribtion, also letting the patients know that medicine is only to treat (HENCE THEY ALWAYS CALLED 8221THE MANAGEMENT TREATMENT OF: 1. copd 2. diabetes 3.cardio vascular diseases, none of the MD doctors ever promise that the medication is going to cure their disease..and also, they asked us to read the leaflets on the package of the medication they issued to us..so that the patients understand..the pro and contra..and mostly the side effect of prolong the use of medication is not very good. So, I jsut being neutral here.. Ha Youngevity made the mistake of stepping out of the shadowy realm of pyramid schemes onto the public stage at last night8217s RNC convention, and as is always the case when MLMs do this, the company is being excoriated by the press and characterized as a shady multilevel marketing company that sells useless supplements. I8217m OD-ing on schadenfreude today. vox201672012243002michelle-van-etten-rnc-republican-convention-youngevity-trump Van Etten8217s speech was such an incoherent mess that she might make (or lead) the top 10 list for GOP worst party convention speaker of all time. Watch it 8212 I dare you It is guaranteed to make you squirm uncomfortably in your seat. washingtonpostvideopoliticsmichelle-van-etten-trump-is-ultimate-ringmaster20160720ac3b1bec-4ec0-11e6-bf27-405106836f96video. html According to her LinkedIn CV, Michelle Van Etten worked for International Heritage from 2001 to 2013, and joined Youngevity in 2013 at the rank of Senior Vice Chairman Marketing Director, the third highest rank in the company. Distributors do not typically claw their way up the ranks to achieve these senior levels in MLMs rather they are often granted secret backdoor sweetheart deals referred to in the industry as break insertions where a newcomer is plugged high up in the pyramid from the start. This is often the case when a distributor comes over from a rival MLM pyramid scheme (usually when it is collapsing) and brings their downline with them. The break insertion is the companys way of buying distributors (who are also the ultimate end users in these schemes). Nonetheless, these senior distributors are put on stage at distributor motivation meetings to lie to the audience and tell them if you just work hard like I do, you too can climb all the way to the top Its disgustingly deceptive. When I heard the name Heritage International, it reminded me that a couple of years ago Youngevity had stated in their SEC filings that had bought up a bunch of small obscure ailing MLMs to expand their distributor numbers and sales revenue. One of those companies was called Heritage Makers, Inc. which Youngevity acquired in August 2013, a mere 3 months after Michelles CV claims that she moved from International Heritage to Youngevity. Youngevitys SEC filings curiously omit all details about the principals behind Heritage Makers, but its possible that International Heritage and Heritage Makers are related entities and that Michelles break insertion may have arisen from this deal. Youngevitys SEC filings prove that the principals (who, unlike in the case of Heritage Makers, were listed by name) of the other MLM companies that were among the batch of acquisitions did in fact receive sweetheart break insertion deals. sec. edgar-onlineyoungevity-international-incs-1-securities-registration-statement20141003section15.aspx getfilingssec-filings131113Youngevity-International-Inc10-Q This brings us to the second important detail that went unreported by the press. Immediately prior to joining Youngevity, Van Etten was a distributor with the scammy MLM Visalus, which sued her for breaching the terms of her contract. As Visalus was going down in flames, a rival MLM by the name of Ocean Avenue was formed by some top-level defectors from Visalus, and Van Etten, while preparing her exit plan, was recruiting Visalus distributors to join Ocean Avenue. Referred to as cross line recruiting, this is virtually the only infraction that will ever get a distributor fired from an MLM (while illegally saying that the companys products cure cancer results in a promotion). Whether or not it was due to the lawsuits, Ocean Avenue never got off the ground (and Visalus is now dying a slow death). However, the company, with Van Etten as a co-plaintiff, did file a counter suit against Visalus alleging entrapment. It appears the suits were eventually settled under undisclosed terms hansermarketingtipsocean-avenue-v-visalus-a-tale-of-espionage-international-hackers-a-new-challenge-named-rico Its also likely that Van Etten brought over her downline from Visalus to Youngevity. Suspiciously, Van Etten omits both Visalus and Ocean Avenue altogether from her LinkedIn CV. Not surprising since both companies are now in the toilet and have left behind a trail of incriminating evidence. linkedininmichelle-van-etten-200572b Incidentally, Michelle is also getting a slice of the motivational seminar business from Youngevity, which is typical of these break insertion deals i. e. part of the insider distributors compensation package includes part or all of the revenue from sales of these CDs. riverwalkmediaYG15.html riverwalkmediaYGL15.html Just wanted to share my father started taking these supplements for his high blood pressure. He is a healthy guy. 70 years old and competes in triathlons. His blood pressure was so high his MD said he couldn8217t exercise anymore till BP was down. My dad didn8217t want to spend the rest of his life on meds. He tries this stuff. And in two weeks BP was back down to 12090 due to the calcium deficiency. In addition to that he an close his fist all the way. And he says he can pee like a 20 year old. MD8217s convince us, this is an old age problem. He8217s 70. Neither none of us sell this product or intend to. We just find it interesting that he doesn8217t have to be on statins the rest of his life. Yeah, BS Emily Distributors chronically break the law by promoting these pyrmaid scheme supplements as miracle medicine. How many times do you think they can lie and cheat without straining the company8217s credibility beyond the breaking point Anonymous pseudo-testimonials serve no purpose but to add to the aura of scamminess that surrounds Youngevity. Yes, I have MS and Youngevity aka Dr. Wallach said he could cure me with his supplements. I8217ve spent thousands of dollars and my MS is worse. I called him on his live radio show and confronted him. He tried to tell me I8217m not better because I8217m not absorbing and to stay away from anyone including my husband and children who eat gluten, even though they don8217t, we are 100 gluten free. I told him I8217m broke, had to refinance my home and what does he say, buy more of his supplements No, I8217m done with this Youngevity crap My husband is obsessed with Youngevity and our marriage is suffering because of it. Dr. Wallach wants to pull you away from everyone telling you not to be around even family members who eat gluten, not to even hug them I think Youngevity is a secret cult They tell you what to eat, when to eat, take all your money and pull you away from anyone who tries to tell you to run the other way. Thank you for this article, I know now I8217m getting completely scammed. No more though, no more I put everything on the line for his lies Like I said I have MS and now it8217s worse He will lie, take all your money, pull you away from your family and guess what, you end up no better if worse like me Wallach is a screwed-in-the-head evil little tyrannical conman, and yes, what they are running is a cult, wrapped inside a snakeoil scam, wrapped inside a pyramid scheme. The products, like Wallach8217s medical knowledge and advice, are worse than worthless. I wish you the best with your MS and next husband. ) I have never consumed a Youngevity product, however I know about Wallachs story and what caused his transformation from scientist trying to find answers in nature into another marketer dying for money. I will tell the people wondering why Youngevity supplements did not work for them whereas other people claim they do work. Extremely simple, every body has different levels of minerals and most importantly and thus different ability to produce chemical reactions required to function properly, therefore, if any Youngevity product has ever worked for anyone, it is simply because the minerals and its amounts were the right ones for those bodies, simply by coincidence. Taking supplements without prior analysis to find about body needs is therefore a wrong approach and the main reason why I dont support companies like Youngevity, they dont tell the truth because they know very well the same pill does not work for everyone. They have, however, good science behind their crappy sales strategy, is just that they hide the most important step to be taken in order to start reversing conditions. I dont blame them for hiding this thought, there is just no way their business could have suceeded had they advertised openly 8220in order to use our products you need to work with a functional doctor and get hair-urine-blood tests done so mineral requirements could be stated8221. No standard person would ever continue having interest, people want quick solutions that comes in form of a pill. Anyway, I have MS since 2010, I have never taken any drugs as recommended by the tons of neuros I have visited across these years. One good day I met someone at work. This person had a couple of chronic conditions that are also considered neuro-inflammatory, and he talked to me about a functional doctor that was truly helping him overcome these conditions. I contacted that guy and started working with him mainly on mineral balancing and heavy metal detox. I did the so-called three way test 8211 Hair, blood and urine. This is required to get the most accurate numbers possible with the current technology, a blood test, which is the most common type of test every doctor use, is totally useless on its own to identify mineral levels in tissues. It turned out I had (and still do) massive levels of mercury and cadmiun on me, apart from several mineral deficiencies and unbalanced ratios. This opened a new world to me, 8220is it really possible chronic conditions are caused by toxicity and mineral deficiencies or is it just another scam8221 I wondered. I started researching and contacting people with MS or any other chronic condition that had done such tests. Well, 100 of these people had both things, several impairments on mineral ratios and big heavy metals toxicity. Interessant. I started a protocol to slowly detox heavy metals, and also balance my minerals. Im not going to tell you if this works or not, anyone with minimal knowledge of living organisms should have understood it by now, but the point of this post is, the body is made of minerals, and what Youngevity is selling you are nothing but minerals. Every medical condiction has its own specific mineral deficiency profile, these guys just sell you the minerals that are 8220commonly8221 known to be specific to your condition, however as I said above, never delivered in the right amounts. What do you think will happen if we dont give our body the minerals it needs to function as expected Moreover, what do you think will happen if on top of this, we keep building a toxic environment by putting in heav metals which all around us The answer is simple, chronic disease, and the cure Detoxing and Getting the balance back into the body. Your doctor may or may not know about this, but he would be so deep inside the system that would not even bother wondering. Since 1st year of medical uni, they teach them 8220chronic conditions are environmental and genetic, they cant be cured8221. The biggest lie I have ever heard, and the evidence is all around us. Even if Youngevity could have gone mainstream working with clients properly (testing minerals and creating protocols specific to each individual), they would have been shut down very quickly by goverment as instructed by big pharmas. I think I8217ve covered Wallach8217s story well in this article. If there8217s something I missed, please let me know. Totally anonymous said, 8220I will tell the people wondering why Youngevity supplements did not work for them whereas other people claim they do work. Extremely simple, every body has different levels of minerals and most importantly and thus different ability to produce chemical reactions required to function properly, therefore, if any Youngevity product has ever worked for anyone, it is simply because the minerals and its amounts were the right ones for those bodies, simply by coincidence.8221 That8217s simply not accurate. If that was the case, we wouldn8217t be able to say that polio vaccines work at near 100. We wouldn8217t be able to say that Viagra works for males at 100 of the time. We could be stuck saying that M038M8217s 8220do work8221, because everyone8217s metabolism is different. The truth is that there8217s legitimate science behind that any more than people having different levels of minerals. The reason why people claim MLM health products (such as Youngevity and others) work, is because it MANY, MANY MLMs are BILLED AS MIRACLE CURES . Truth In Advertising showed that there are many seemingly health and income claim violations from distributors and brought it to the attention of Youngevity. The result, 8220President and CEO Dave Briskie admitted that the income claims violated company policies and would be taken down and that it was also removing or revising the health claims.8221 I think that8217s all you need to need to know. Don8217t belive the health claims, as Youngevity8217s President seems to be admitting are violations. If Youngevity8217s own President and CEO isn8217t going to stand behind the claims, why would you believe them Totally Oblivious said: I will tell the people wondering why Youngevity supplements did not work for them whereas other people claim they do work. Extremely simple, every body has different levels of minerals Yes, the answer is simple 8212 that much is true but it has nothing to do with the explanation you provided. People who claim that Youngevity supplements work are distributors who are straight up lying in an attempt to con people into buying the products and joining the pyramid, or who are nave enough to delude themselves into believing that the products work, because they want to con people into buying the products and joining the pyramid. Totally Oblivious said: They have, however, good science behind their crappy sales strategy, Thats a demonstrably false assertion. They literally have no valid science behind their products whatsoever. Totally Oblivious said: Anyway, I have MS since 2010, I have never taken any drugs as recommended by the tons of neuros I have visited across these years. Seems odd, to say the least, that you would consult with tons of neuros over the years and then completely ignore their treatment recommendations. What a waste of time and resources. Totally Oblivious said: One good day I met someone at workhe talked to me about a functional doctor that was truly helping him overcome these conditionsI contacted that guy and started working with him mainly on mineral balancing and heavy metal detoxIt turned out I had (and still do) massive levels of mercury and cadmiun on me, apart from several mineral deficiencies and unbalanced ratios. This opened a new world to me, is it really possible chronic conditions are caused by toxicity and mineral deficiencies or is it just another scam Sounds like you got scammed by a quack. Who is this alleged functional doctor and why did you not list their name I would bet that you dont have mercurycadmium toxicity or mineral deficiencies. That sounds like the kind of shallow one-size-fits-all diagnosis of someone who isnt trained in medicine. Totally Oblivious said: Every medical condiction has its own specific mineral deficiency profile Thats complete BS. What fool told you that Totally Oblivious said: Since 1st year of medical uni, they teach them chronic conditions are environmental and genetic, they cant be cured. The biggest lie I have ever heard, and the evidence is all around us. ROFL. BS Youve obviously never set foot anywhere near a medical school or, apparently, anyone who has attended one. Youngevity just announced that they acquired Natures Pearl, and MLM company that sells muscadine grape extract supplements. finance. yahoonewsyoungevity-international-announces-acquisition-natures-123000837.htmlrecent acquisition It seems that Youngevitys growth strategy is based on acquiring dismal shitty disreputable MLMs and absorbing their distributor bases. They have a string of similarly dismal acquisitions over the past couple of years including Livinity, Restart Your Life, Good Herbs. All of the companies have either been sanctioned by the FDA or were operated by principals who had serious run-ins with the law, like being sanctioned by the SEC, etc. The company is already suing Dave Pitcock, former owner of Livinity who made a sweetheart deal with YGYI to acquire his company, as well as a bunch of other distributors. businessforhome. org201605youngevity-vs-wakaya-perfection-law-suit-amended-complaint In related news, nearly a year ago the FTC shut down Vemma and when they came back it8217s been very, very bad for them . Youngevity aside I8217m afraid that everything you have said gets cast to The Wayside because of your opinion that supplements do nothing and are worthless. Especially since I know from personal experience that that is wrong. On one issue alone the best that modern medicine and doctors could do for me was to leave me getting weaker from each bout of bronchitis that came 4 to 6 times a year. I have reached a point where deep inside I realized that I was dying. I simply could not survive many more bouts with bronchitis. That8217s when I discovered through my reading, echinacea. A lot of people say that does nothing. They8217re wrong. I am alive because of it. And I don8217t get bronchitis anymore. Why don8217t the studies show any Effectiveness for such things My guess is because there8217s no money in something you can8217t patent. And Medicine it8217s not immune to The Lure of following the money. Me, I go with what works. No matter how many other well-intentioned individuals poo poo it. Personal experience, like an optical illusion, can deceive us. So you are suggesting that tens or hundreds of thousands of studies have all wasted money to build a lie that supplements AREN8217T effective simply because they can8217t be patented I don8217t think there8217s enough tin foil in the world for your hat. Sard said: Youngevity aside You are pushing aside the topic of this discussion so you can go on a rant about something entirely unrelated You must have a social intelligence quotient of zero. Sard said: Im afraid that everything you have said gets cast to The Wayside because of your opinion that supplements do nothing and are worthless. Ha What a twit You dont get to dismiss the totality of his ironclad arguments with weak-sauce BS like that. Sard said: Thats when I discovered through my reading, echinacea. A lot of people say that does nothing. Theyre wrong. I am alive because of it. And I dont get bronchitis anymore. Except Echinacea doesnt cure bronchitis (or anything else). You are simply delusional. Sard said: My guess is because theres no money in something you cant patent. That statement is a vivid demonstration of your ignorance. Supplements can be and often are patented. Monavie was patented and that was complete BS. LifeVantage patented Protandim and that was complete BS too. In fact, the worst era in the history of snakeoil medicine in the U. S. is known as The Patent Medicine Era because all the bogus remedies these carnival hacks were selling were completely worthless and often dangerous BS, despite being patented. I am fortunate lazy man to have not seen your article 20 years ago. I have no arthritis, outrun most parents of the kids I coach, as well as the kids. At 59 I can paint the markings 8211 every yard, numbers and each 5 yard line in under 20 minutes. Yes, I take Tangy Tangerine daily. I hope you don8217t coach kids in anything that requires logical deduction. Correlation Does Imply Causation Hey maaaan, I think your a Democrat Crime Syndicate Member. His research and products work for me like none other in the World. Because, there are no formulas like his or his research either. I came here searching 8220Youngevity fraudscam8221 because I8217ve known Wallach8217s early history of selling colloidal minerals which claimed smaller is better absorbed. Same selling non-science tactic for ionized water. I appreciate what I found by the author who supports with facts amp science. I notice the word 8220cure8221 mentioned many times by commentors amp as my physician daughter says,8221there is no cure without a autopsy8221.I find it very annoying that Wallach is highly supported by George Noory on the Coast radio program who frequently refers to Wallach as 8220doc8221. Noory is a Youngevity user. Callers state their disease for which Wallach offers the remedy. This is prescribing without a license. He is a veterinarian amp spent 1-year at a naturopath college which normally is a 4-yr program post 8216human8217 pre-med. Thank you for this site. Hi Mark, you must be youngevity distributor, I tried the products, it did not work for me. if they are really working, why won8217t they accepted refund if it does not work for others. surely if you can guarantee the product really8230.really8230really work, I will buy of you and PROMISE REFUND (30 days money back guarantee) I challenge you8230. and I do not like to take drug from pharmaceutical. but the doctors, pharma at least never lie, they never stated that tablets WILL CURE..tabletspills is only there to help maintaining the pain, but only temporary..the doctors always mention to READ THE LABEL ON THE DRUG8230THERE ARE SIDE EFFECT ON IT, but the physician also ask for the patient to change their life style8230the fact that 90 of patients keep taking the drugs but do not change their lifestyle how would they be cured. but pharma and doctors never claim that its going to curetreat..what they always said. THE MANAGEMENT TREATMENT OF8230..(EITHER IT CARDIO VASCULAR DISEASE, HYPERTENSION..COPD ETC..ETC) JUST like youngevity porducts people have to change their lifetyle..buy following the rule of tomb: stop taking 12 bad food. so any YOUNGEVITY DISTRIBUTOR WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE ME..PLEASE I DARE YOU..AS LONG AS U REFUND IF THE PRODUCT DO NOT WORK8230. THANKS FOR THIS PUBLICATION..AT LEAST NAIVE PEOPLE CAN BE HELPED8230 You mean there are 8220potential8221 side effects on medicine, right I can8217t think of ever have received one of these side effects. None of my friends have ever mentioned it either. To the best of my knowledge this is a legal disclaimer which is required because medicine is much more highly regulated than supplements. People have reported side effects with supplements as well. It8217s really hard to get people to change their lifestyles. Once again, this isn8217t the place to invite outside contact. I can only say one thing. I have taken the vitamins an minerals for 15 years. I don8217t sell any. I have seen many improvements in my health and my ongoing health that no matter how expensive I keep taking them. They work for me and that is all I need. Did you have health problems prior taking their products How many months after you are taking the products when you feel the improvement. Any way, if you are healthy why are you keeping the supplements, surely if you are not abusing your body and taking the healthy life style, you should not need any vitamins and mineral nor going to the doctor Ralph said: I can only say one thing. I have taken the vitamins an minerals for 15 years. I dont sell any. I have seen many improvements in my health and my ongoing health that no matter how expensive I keep taking them. That was at least 3 things, but whatever. Youngevitys snakeoil MLM crap doesnt cause improvements in health (a conspicuously threadbare claim). That was BS claim 1. BS claim 2 was that you dont care how expensive the product is an illogical claim straight out of the MLM Con Artists Handbook. No one in their right mind would profess their love of grossly overpaying for mundane vitamin supplements. Ralph said: They work for me and that is all I need. That apparently is not all you need for some reason you also felt the need to come to this site and make vague BS claims, like they work. You8217re fooling no one. I myself have been suckered in Youngevity8217s outrageously expensive products. When I choose a Lexus over a Toyota, I know I8217m paying a substantial premium for small improvements in quality and features. I8217m basically paying for the name brand and bragging rights. Depending on who you are, this extra cost may be worth it. When you pay substantially more for a product such as Youngevity over conventional vitamins, you have no way of measuring it8217s worth or value. The problem with these products is they rely primarily on your faith and gullibility. There is no way you can objectively test any of the company8217s claims. BTW, Youngevity is one of Alex Jones8217 Infowars sponsors, which is a very shady organization. Thanks to your research and my searching about Youngivity. I was able to stop on time before throwing my little bit savings I had in buying this products. You just saved someone from being scammed Only one problem with your review of Youngevity. Your comparing a Youngevity 8220tangy drink mix8221 with a Opti-Men 8220pill8221. Tell us vitamin drink mixes that are comparable to Youngevity. Otherwise your 8220pill8221 and 8220drink mix8221 comparison makes you look stupid. I didn8217t read your whole article, but hopefully you didn8217t make more crazy comparisons. Take your Opti-Men 8220pill8221 and put it in this 5-ish pill crusher. Then combine it with some Kool-aid, crystal light, or other cheap drink mix of your choice. Boom, instant 8220vitamin drink mix8221 Sorry you were too stupid to figure that out. Most people don8217t care to about vitamin drink mixes. Next time you go to CVS count how many vitamins come in pill form vs. drink mix form. You8217ll see what I mean. A pill crusher, thats all you could come up with. Again you were comparing a pre-made drink mix powder with a pill. And I find you less credible, when in another comment, your supporting GMO non-sense. The scientists who support GMOs are being paid big bucks and know they would get black balled, if they went against GMOs. I guess you didn8217t understand that if you use a pill crusher and any pre-made drink mix of your choice, it is nutritionally (full of vitamins and minerals) and functionally (a beverage) equivalent. If you want to pay me the money, I8217ll crush the pill into some pre-made drink mix powder and call it Lazevity. Not sure why you8217d want pay me a ton of money for essentially equivalent nutrition. However, I have a few minutes to make a thousand dollars from you. Shoot me an email here and I8217ll give you my Paypal address. That8217s simply not true about GMOs. Almost all scientists are on-board with GMOs8230 and no one is paying off all scientists with big bucks. The money simply isn8217t there for it. No one would be able to blackball almost all scientists. If you read the reputable sources I cited, you8217d probably understand the issue better. I found Opti-Men locally and found another problem with your comparison. Opti-Men only has 300mg of vitamin c, while Youngevity adds 1000mg vitamin c. Joe said, 8220I found Opti-Men locally and found another problem with your comparison. Opti-Men only has 300mg of vitamin c, while Youngevity adds 1000mg vitamin c.8221 Oi8230Joe so many issues. First of all, when was the last time you heard of a case of scurvy Never That8217s because we get plenty of Vitamin C from our daily diets. Let8217s get into the math you failed to mention. Opti-men suggests you take their pill 3x a day which is way more Vitamin C than your body can need or process (most gets flushed out in your urine). In fact, if you took one Opti-men pill a day it would be more Vitamin C than you could ever need. Now the kicker, if Opti-men has plenty of Vitamin C (along with other vitamins and minerals), and it comes in a bigger supply at half the price8230WHY THE HECK ARE YOU BUYING TANGY TANGERINE. Well then tell me why that when I first started their products I thought their were garbage to going from taking their plant derived minerals and acted has If something like an positive charge turned on Please explain me why I had that effect and It wasn8217t no harmful side effect either like pharmaceuticals. Has to this day I truly believe In their stuff to before I didn8217t. Maybe you should tell us why you8217d start products that you think are garbage Please tell me why numerous people claimed to have the same experience with MonaVie when the inventor admitted it was nothing more than 8220expensive flavored water.8221 Maybe when you are paying so much for a product you perceive it will work. It8217s called the price-placebo effect. People who pay more for wine think it8217s better. The placebo effect is well-known. If you feel that 8220something like an positive charge turned on8221 from vitamins and minerals, you should have it taken to a lab for analysis. No one eats an apple or broccoli and has that experience. I8217d be worried there8217s something in there that there shouldn8217t be like ephedra or something. Do you not know anything about brain chemistry Is what I was referring too yeah I know It don8217t have that effect from eating fruit etc but what does fruit and of that such give you ENERGY etc. I8217m not an dumbass. I look at depth at things before I even try them plus the healthiest you can be you wouldn8217t even need to see an doctor. I even looked Into Dr. Hoffer about nacin In general I have looked everywhere. Oh yeah right ephedra Is In yeah right I know what that can do to you I8217m not that stupid. All wine Is made from grapes but recipe Is all about how It8217s done. I8217m not sure any of that was a coherent thought Rob. The first thing you wrote seemed like an attempt at a sentence, but I couldn8217t really get what you were saying. Yes, there8217s a recipe for wine, but wine is still wine. There isn8217t a magical brand of wine that cures autism or any other disease. Vitamins and minerals are still vitamins and minerals. There isn8217t a magical brand of vitamins and minerals that cures autism, cancer, or any other known non-deficiency disease. Not always the cause quality control and the recipe of how It8217s made matters has well so every company does things different so for you to say that would be like you saying that If you go to the grocery store you are gonna get the same quality control and same know how that what8217s In the bottle Is exactly what8217s In the bottle. You really don8217t have an expertise of how companies do things. So If you say so washingtonpostnewsmorning-mixwp20150203gnc-target-wal-mart-walgreens-accused-of-selling-fake-herbals Rob, what evidence do you have that Youngevity, or any other pyramiding company, would have better quality control Given that they8217ve been admonished essentially en masse by the FTC for misleading and false representation, I would think it would be even worse. Since we know that vitamins, minerals, and supplements are a waste of money. it seems like a stretch to suggest that further uncertainty would help matters. It would be like having a little league team competing with an MLB one and thinking, 8220But if we replace the human manager on the little league team with a monkey, we can8217t lose8221 (Admittedly, this is not my best analogy.) Yea they tell us It8217s an waste of money but yet no one gets blamed for what big pharma has they kill us one example grey frey and look what happened to him plus I guess you people are stupid enough to not look at the hippocate oath classic vs modern so you like to continue seeing an MD go ahead they really do nothing for us In an perfect world we would be taking care of ourselves. owlspace-ccm. rice. eduaccesscontentuserecy1Nazi20Human20ExperimentationPagesHippocratic20Oath-classic. html not grey frey glenn frey so we like to think that8217s the norm and that It8217s so grad and perfect. It wasnt even an MLM product dumbass It was from the health food store where I am at. Like I said I asked you why did It work and I have an witness to It so really you don8217t know how some products out there work. I can8217t read most of what you write due to the grammar. Youngevity is an MLM product. However, the article mentions things that cover non-MLM products as well. People do just heal sometimes. There8217s a thing called the placebo effect. You think you8217re so perfect just to judge people like me this Is why the minority of the time I don8217t reply to shit article8217s like this because I get brought down saying that what you do doesn8217t work I know my body dumb ass. I know how things work with stuff that8217s why there Is research and I have bought the magnesium locally at a health store. I know what I have witnessed and so have my friends that night. If It didn8217t work I would have still been hard of breathing and It was that bad so can practice what you preach but you can never preach what someone has witnessed. It would be like me saying you can8217t have coffee and take that away from you. I8217m trying hard not to judge you, but you keep on calling me dumbass and saying that I don8217t know what a pyramid scheme is. You come into my home (this blog) and rudely insult me. If you don8217t like the article, then don8217t read it. However, you didn8217t seem to argue with it too much, except to quibble with what amounts to around 3 cents of vitamin C in Opti-Men8217s. Even so, I clearly explained in the article that there were some differences8230 vitamins and minerals aren8217t rarely the same just like Coke, Pepsi, and Sam8217s Choice cola aren8217t going to be the same. It8217s important to not get lost in the weeds and realize that they are functionally the same. You say, 8220I know my body dumb ass.8221 There8217s probably at least 200 years of psychology that shows this isn8217t true. People are surprised by optical illusions all the time for one example. I8217m not trying to be perfect here, but just saying that there8217s a lot of psychology that shows that people THINK they know their mind and bodies, but then they don8217t. That8217s for people in general. Maybe you think you are so perfect that you are the one example that disproves 200 years of psychology research. If so, congrats to you. I8217m just not going to believe your word for it. I8217m not taking anything away from anyone. (And you can have my coffee, I hate the stuff.) The placebo effect works. It8217s been proven. It explains why your breathing is better. In one way, that should be all that matters to you. It works for you, so great However, in another way, people spread false information in testimonials that magnesium helps with breathing8230 and then use that as a basis to get people to buy overpriced products through pyramiding to try to make themselves rich. That8217s where I have a problem. I8217m not trying to Insult you In anyway If I did I8217m sorry but I like to look for ways to Improve my health then today8217s doctors and then see this (your blog) has they tried and have failed us then for me to come around and not get an damn what I think. I do understand where you8217re coming from but I would just rather be healthy then me having to go to an doctor and having to take pills because all he knows Is fucking pills which pisses me off. Because It has to be all nothing but greed and money I know out there probably wish to help and make things right but who can we put our honest trust In when their8217s nothing but Idiots and greedy bastards like Farid Fata and we have to put our full trust to them plus their own oath even says that 8220It may also be within my power to take a life8221 rather then first do no harm. If you don8217t want insult a person, it might be wise to avoid calling them 8220dumb ass.8221 I think 100 of the people called 8220dumb ass8221 consider it an insult. I8217m not sure my blog post on Youngevity is seen by today8217s doctors andor effects their opinion. It would be a little like expecting my comment on Twitter about a bad football play impacting an NFL coach. Reputable doctors know that vitamins and minerals are not going to cure anything significant (other than the known deficiency diseases like scurvy). I know you are against pills, but I think the delivery method is a unique fear to you. Some people LOVE coffee and need it every morning. I take a 100mg caffeine pill a couple of hours after waking up to get my 8220boost.8221 Pills aren8217t evil. I8217m extremely fed-up with the heath care system. I have an article of 2000 words on the Epi-Pen that I8217d love to publish, but it is beating a dead horse. However, the best medicine we have is8230 medicine. We can8217t get lost in marketing and placebo effects8230 and use that to encourage others to get involved in MLMs where 99 of people lose money. If It didn8217t work then why did my friends known I was breathing better I think that supplements are wonderful and whomever says other wise is just blind8230 you may buy Dr. Wallach8217s products without being on the multi level crap8230 you may join and just enjoy the discounts8230 my FATHER WENT FROM TAKING 25 UNITS OF INSULIN to ZERO in 10 days. I don8217t sell the productnor did I ever join, instead I bought from a young man that would bring it to my door, the PRODUCT WORKS. don8217t let this blogger make you believe his lies. Ericka Perez said: I think that supplements are wonderful and whomever says other wise is just blind Thats a throwaway comment. There are tens of thousands of supplement products on the market. Many have been proven to be clinically worthless, mislabeled, contaminated, spiked, deceptively advertised, grossly overpriced, etc. Asserting that they are all wonderful is idiotic making that assertion while calling everyone who disagrees with you blind is beyond idiotic. Ericka Perez said: you may buy Dr. Wallachs products without being on the multi level crap Right, and in that case they are even more scandalously overpriced. Thats not a selling point. It also turns a blind eye on the legions of people who are being taken advantage of as distributors for the company8217s worthless products. Ericka Perez said: you may join and just enjoy the discounts Right, so instead of overpaying 30-fold for laughably worthless mundane garbage, youd only have to overpay 20-fold. Thats not a selling point either. Ericka Perez said: my FATHER WENT FROM TAKING 25 UNITS OF INSULIN to ZERO in 10 days. Why do you MLM cheerleaders insist on shouting for no reason and littering every statement with superfluous exclamation points. Do you think that it makes your transparent BS more compelling Ericka Perez said: I dont sell the productnor did I ever join, instead I bought from a young man that would bring it to my door, the PRODUCT WORKS. dont let this blogger make you believe his lies You also never learned the wonders of punctuation, grammar, commonsense, critical reasoning, integrity, etc. You didnt even specify which product you were talking about 8212 Youngevity sells hundreds of worthless supplements, and you didn8217t think to provide a product name 8212 the most important detail Doesn8217t matter though, their entire inventory is an arsenal of overpriced BS. You also didnt provide any details to back up your assertion that the blog host lied about anything. Ericka Perez said: I will not be vising this site anymore Why would you To make more of a fool of yourself You did your duty already you threw poop like an irate monkey without making a single valid point. You can go now. By the way the so called 8220reputable doctors8221 will not endorse vitamins and minerals as a cure because they will be out of business right away8230. and they will loose their kick backs from pharmaceutical companies. too bad you are in the wrong side, I frankly don8217t care whether you publish this or not. I will not be vising this site anymore and the only reason that I will mention it is to let people know of your lies If vitamins and minerals put doctors out of business, they8217d already be out of business. It8217s not like they are some kind of secret thing that no one takes. I don8217t write any lies and I cite my sources. Hi you two Ericka and Rob, please can you be open minded and should really give LITTLE credit to Lazy Man to publish this information. I have experience being unwell my best friends are: consultant, doctor and naturopathic, dietician. A true pharma reps as well as a true nutrition will provide the best advice to their clients: if the patients are ill, FIRST thing they advice their clients to advice the patients, to CHANGE their life style ie: daily exercises, stop eating junk food (fried food, meat with nitrate, BBQ etc 8230such as common sense), drinking plenty of liquid (non alcoholic nor soda) healthy food. Because I was in the verge killing myself with my condition, i started searching, discussing what was the best option for my condition, I never like taking medicine, however, medicine is good to help you to get better temporarily. while I got myself together to follow my doctors and consultants advice 8211 a friend of mine bought me some stuff from Youngevity it was a pack of healthy brain 8230something..I am sure it cost my friends lots of many. all of them sort kind of giving me Christmas present two years ago for me to take it..but my condition getting worse..that supplements DONE NOTHING for me. I ended up to be rushed to the AampE and finally I got the operation, I am now getting better, I discussed with my doctors and naturopathy 8211 and both of them giving the same advice8230keep carry on with healthy lifestyle..your food is a medicine..so from both side opinion they were wrightlt you live in a healthy life style..YOU FREE FROM MEDICINE AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENT82308230. what I am trying to say is: be open minded take from both sides..DO YOU THINK the MDs will not save their loved one if they are ill and probably passed away of cancer. DO YOU THINK THEY WON039T TRY THEIR BEST TO GET ANYTHING JUST TO SAVE THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR OWN LIFE IF THEY KNOW THAT SUPPLEMENTS CAN HELP. DON039T YOU THINK THAT THEY WONT SEARCHED AND FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THEM OR THEIR FAMILY, as money is not a problem to them. big pharma have to charge for their products as they have spent millions for clinical trial8230and the clinical trial is not only be done once, they have so many phases, most of the times its involving 20 8211 30.000 people 8211 so it is only natural they patent their drugs and get their money back8230, on the other hand if you search on the website about supplement in clinical trial..majority of them stated. need further study as the recent trial did not produce significant result in other words: there is not much different If some one feel really ache or headache..they take supplement the headache do not goes away, but when they take any pain killer 8211 they have an immediate effect..hence a lot of people went to this road. Taking supplements would be waste of money if they are still have bad habit (eating junk food, smoking too much, drinking too much8230.) I will keep an open mind I8217m not trying to be meanful In the real world I just care so much about people but what8217s sad Is the MD doesn8217t even have an clue about nutrition. So you have to pay hard earn money just to go see an ND I really have my doubts Is what Dr Wallach talks about Is right I have researched studies that were done that talk about the soil. He also talks about how we used to use wood ash on our gardens. Looking from an another MD I found he has even said the same thing about how the soil or baby formula Is and he goes on that their were only 10 deaths on vitamins and minerals and how that8217s been discredited and showing how many more die from prescription medications or from how the medical system Is. MDs do care about nutrition. Try asking them. I haven8217t found who said, 8220Hey that nutrition stuff It8217s complete BS. Everyone should eat fast food and drink Coke all the time.8221 Your MD should be able to refer you to a dietician or nutritionist. I think many health plans would cover it. Yes, you can pay for a Naturopathic Doctor (ND). However, you should read this great piece about Naturopathy by a former ND. I8217ll give his conclusion: 8220Naturopaths seem so embroiled in alternative and old-timey practices that they tragically disregard standards and patient safety. Given their poor medical education and commitment to fanciful principles, NDs are bound to do more harm than good.8221 So why not go to a dietician that doesn8217t have the issues of an ND I8217ve covered (with much help from commenters) the soil stuff in the article. We actually get a lot more nutrition now than ever before because of agricultural science and access to nutritional information. Of course, eating healthy is up to you, but that8217s really all you need to do. I8217ll agree that few die from vitamins and minerals. However, vitamins and minerals aren8217t shown to be effective. Don8217t confuse safety with effectiveness like Wallach. My couch is very safe compared to a car. There are many more car accents than couch accents each year. However, my couch isn8217t an effective source of transportation. It8217s safe, but not effective. There8217s a lot of crap going on with the medical system. Much of it is man-made stuff and politics. I presume you8217ve read about the Epi-pen pricing stuff. It8217s terrible and the system is terrible. However, the Epi-pen is effective in what it does. People are displacing their unhappiness with the medical system to the products themselves and failing to recognize that they have undergone testing with the FDA to be proven effective. Show me the vitamins and minerals that have done that and we can open up a great discussion. I8217ll just continue believing In what I believe In MD8217s don8217t get tested for nutrition when they go to school that8217s why I trust ND8217s more then the MD has I believe that8217s what one of the future doctors will be this article that Dr. Wallach shows Is Interesting which Is 8220WHO NEEDS DOCTORS. Your future physician might not be an M. D.8211and you may be better off8221. Another thing If MD8217s known so much about nutrition like you say they do then why would they even talk about giving someone an pill for lets say their high blood pressure because thats what they talked about when I last went In at the one time when I had high blood pressure I8217m fine now because I took charge of my own health. All that an pill does Is manage It so In other words they no nothing since when do they spend more hours with the patient then an ND I8217m not stupid I know what today8217s doctors are all about. Everyone believes what they believe. I can only lead a horse to water. It8217s up to you if you want to drink. I think MDs do get nutritional training, but it isn8217t the focus. They go to school for what, 12 years What do you think Harvard Medical School is teaching all that time It8217s probably a lot of important things about anatomy, medicine, reputable research, etc. Are you looking for MDs to go to school for 15-16 years before they can help people Why not trust dieticians who have gone to school for nutrition Why not trust them more than NDs Rob said, 8220Another thing If MDs known so much about nutrition like you say they do then why would they even talk about giving someone an pill for lets say their high blood pressure because thats what they talked about when I last went In82308221 Doctors can tell people to eat healthy, but it doesn8217t stick. Many people prefer the taste of unhealthy foods with fat and sugar. Most of us know we shouldn8217t eat Cinnabon, but we do it anyway. We don8217t base our eating decisions on health alone, but also convenience, price, taste, and even our emotions. Isn8217t it fair for the doctor to give you a product that is FDA approved to help with your condition Before you answer, recognize that Youngevity vitamins are the equivalent of a pill8230 but it isn8217t approved or shown to help with a condition. Did you ask to see a dietician about your high blood pressure You seem to just be against medicine. I don8217t think that8217s healthy and I believe you should seek help with that. I8217m against It because of what I known It8217s all about money. When does the doctor make more money when your sick or when your well when your sick. When does the pharma industry make more money when your sick or when your well 8220When does the doctor make more money when your sick or when your well when your sick.8221 This is false logic like suggesting that someone has car that doesn8217t need energy8230 but the gas companies hiding this secret. While your circumstance may be true, you need to think more critically. Any doctor that can reliably make people better from anything stands to gain a huge amount of fame and fortune. Also, you are suggesting that doctors are keep their families and loved ones sick. Would you keep your child sick to make a little extra money Of course not. And of course, anyone in the world can show that they have something that works better. However, no one has. 8220When does the pharma industry make more money when your sick or when your well8221 People are always going to get sick8230 it8217s the natural order of things. A pharmaceutical company that can present a better solution stands to make a lot more money. See how much Gilead has made from Sovaldi. By your logic, such a drug would never have been released. Again, please use your critical thinking skill rather than parroting the stuff the MLMer pitch. (These are old, tired arguments that I8217ve only seen from MLMers.) I8217m also fine doing everything myself I don8217t trust doctors and this Is one example he didn8217t listen to doctors about them about cholesterol which I know now It8217s an myth and look how long he lived prnt. scd3p33f Rob said: Im against It because of what I known (sic) Its (sic) all about money. And what do you think Youngevity is all about Its certainly all about money for a very select in-group of con artists at the expense of legions of suckers and desperadoes. If you were really against enterprises that are 8220all about money8221, rather than just using that as a paper-thin BS excuse to defend a blatant scam, you would be deadest against Youngevity. Its readily apparent that Youngevity is targeting and trying to profit from sick people. So if your logic about financial motives were applied equally across the board, wed have to assume that Youngevity and its distributors would be desperately hoping for people to be sick, because if they were healthy, there would be no opportunity to foist upon them the companys worthless BS products. Rob said: When does the doctor make more money when your (sic) sick or when your (sic) well The doctor makes the same either way. A doctors income doesnt depend on the health status of any single patient. People get sick. Its a fact of life. When they do, they go see doctors. At least those with a modicum of sense do idiots buy stupidly overpriced pyramid scheme snakeoil from parasitic know-nothing charlatans. One of my good friends is an ace shoulder surgeon makes a mil plus a year. People lineup to get an appointment. He doesnt make any more or any less annually whether or not you decide to go see him for a procedure. He certainly doesnt have to hope and pray that you will need a shoulder surgery. Shoulders sometimes wear out so do hearts, lungs, muscles, brains, bones, etc. Doctors dont have to chase people down to become customers or hope for people to get sick. Youre just so inured to being an obtrusive ambulance-chasing MLM whore that you forgot (or maybe never learned) what a well-intentioned, skilled, and educated professional looks like. Nutrition and preventive medicine are the domains of mainstream medical science not some arcane shady society of semi-literate Youngevity assholes and fringe alt-health witch doctors who have contributed less than zero to our collective knowledge about all things medical and scientific. The latter make people poorer, dumber, and in all likelihood, less healthy. Doctors encourage their patients to eat well, exercise, and not smoke or drink alcohol excessively all measures that are intended to make people healthier, not sicker. The same holds true of vaccines and a variety of other preventative measures. Aside from that, you ignore that physicians are not the only parties involved in the decision making process about health interventions. Healthcare insurers play a huge role, and it is certainly not in their financial interest for people to be sicker. Quite the contrary in fact they are loathe to have such people among their insurees. Sicker insurees cost them more money while healthier insurees save them money. This simple fact alone completely negates your central premise. Rob said: When does the pharma industry make more money when your sick or when your well Same logic applies. It makes no difference to Pharmas revenue stream whether youre sick or well today. Youll get sick eventually and unless you have a death wish, youll resort to medicine. Pretty much everyone gets sick at some point, unless they die very prematurely. Do you think funeral parlors are hoping for people to die because they can profit from it No, of course not all they have to do is sit and wait, because death, like sickness, is an inevitably. Its no different with docs (aside from the fact that most people who enter the profession have a deep-seated desire to help people). All of your comments are ridiculous, factually incorrect, and rife with paranoid hysteria. so If they got cholesterol wrong why should I listen to them about what to eat and what not to eat. Rather than just attack the website, why not read the claims and see that they are verifiable. It doesn8217t matter if a space octopus delivers the message8230 we are only interested in the content of the message. Again, please try to think critically and actually research this stuff. Don8217t just accept scammers with an ax to grind. Not the case I hear from our MD8217s who blow the whistle of how the system Is I believe everything will change 100 yrs from now and that the 21 century will be the way medicine should have been from the start has It will collapse look when we thought bloodletting was the standard of care now we think It8217s barbaric the other reason I don8217t trust you Is because you really don8217t know the facts out there If I was an MD I would most likely be speaking the truth of It has well I have looked Into things that are really facts and knowledge to what8217s happening. If you don8217t wanna believe me and continue saying what I say to be false then why don8217t you become an MD If you think healthcare Is so good. Rob said: the other reason I dont trust you Is because you really dont know the facts out there If I was an MD I would most likely be speaking the truth of It has well I have looked Into things that are really facts and knowledge to whats happening. If you dont wanna believe me and continue saying what I say to be false then why dont you become an MD If you think healthcare Is so good. Believe you I cant even begin to decipher what you were trying to say in that run-on stream of consciousness comment. Periods and commas would help, as would having a logical point. Your premise seems to be that MDs are bad whereas Youngevitys pyramid scheme snakeoil is great. But commonsense and every fact presented here to date overwhelmingly refute that notion. You are mistaken if you think anyone here is trying to win your trust. We are in fact trying to protect people from predators, con artists, and dangerous idiots exactly like you. Man oh man Jon Olivers 30-minute segment on MLM was a brilliant indictment of everything thats wrong with this skeezy industry. First-class work and arguably the best produced, most thorough, and far-reaching expose of MLM in any form of mass media to date. The fact that it was entertaining as well is gravy. youtubewatchvs6MwGeOm8iI Aside from beating the daylights out of Herbalife, he gave Youngevity a well-deserved thrashing too, focusing coincidentally on the same moronic video by Denice Chenault that I roasted last year. I wonder if his researchers popped by Lazy Mans site. lazymanandmoneyyoungevity-scamcomment-page-6comment-1310549 lazymanandmoneyyoungevity-scamcomment-page-6comment-1310497 Thank you Jon Oliver. That masterpiece was a mitzvah I8217ve been looking for John Oliver to cover MLM for some time. I8217ve spent hours and hours today working on an article on this. What a great segment The second he showed the clip of Denice Chenault, I immediately remembered your posts and wondered the same thing. I8217m having a good chuckle thinking about all the butthurt MLMers getting bent out of shape as they watch this. I wonder if they8217re rubbing Youngevity8217s 8220Heat Pain Relief Salve8221 on the burn I8217m so glad he made it a segment on his show This is exactly what the FTC needed to help put an exclamation point on their recent case with Herbalife. On a side note, I8217ve been writing on the HBO forum to make MLM a topic for months now8230so I8217m willing to take partial credit for this segment haha. Saying big pharma isn8217t a pyramid scheme is retarded. its the biggest. And they are exempt from prison if their meds kill people witch they do. Julie, do you have any idea of what a pyramid scheme is Cars kill people too. We aren8217t going to start sending all the auto makers to prison are we It takes a village Good job to all y8217all for fighting the good fight. I just published article covering a few of the developments that have been happening over the last two weeks: lazymanandmoneyftc-truth-in-advertising-john-oliver-eviscerate-mlm-scams . It8217s not my best work as I frankly was exhausted by the amount of things that I wanted to say. Heh, next your going to call Infowar8217s Dr. Group supplements a scam. lmao Ikr that8217s what I8217m thinking has well just let these gullible people go with their lives and expect that their MD Is god and thinks everything they know Is best. I don8217t think any 8220MD is god8221. But I do know that everyone associated with Youngevity is a lying parasitic POS. Not a difficult choice to make. LOL I guess you don8217t know how the body functions It would be like If we didn8217t have food or water we would die so you expect to listen to an MD to manage It with an drug which keeps the pharmaceutical In business. Rob said, 8220LOL I guess you dont know how the body functions It would be like If we didnt have food or water we would die so you expect to listen to an MD to manage It with an drug which keeps the pharmaceutical In business.8221 I8217m curious as to where you came to these conclusions about MD8217s and the pharmaceutical companies as a whole. This baffles me, because you probably have 0 education about the body and how it works, and yet you can sit here and pass judgments on an entire group of people and medication-based industry as though you knew everything. For the record, not that you would necessarily care, but the MD8217s and big pharma are policed by the FDA and State medical boards. Youngevity has products that are not regulated by anyone8230Doctors are trained on average for 14 years, and a rep for Youngevity has 0 medical training. The average time it takes a drug to be approved after many clinical tests and trials is about 3 years. Youngevity was able to release their product with no trials, and has not been approved by the FDA. So I ask again, why are you so adamant about MDs and big pharma being bad I8217m not trying to suggest their perfect, or even close to perfect, but at least they have training and science behind their drugs and diagnoses. 8220LOL I guess you dont know how the body functions It would be like If we didnt have food or water we would die so you expect to listen to an MD to manage It with an drug which keeps the pharmaceutical In business.8221 Oh Rob you poor sad sack. I have forgotten more about how the body functions than you could ever know in 5 lifetimes. Your premise is idiotic. It boils down to 8212 I don8217t trust a doctor8217s knowledge about how the body functions (even though they spent a decade in school studying it), so I8217ll trust a street-sweeper instead. I already shattered your BS premise about Pharma. Overly optimistic of me to think that facts could penetrate your cranium (and tin-foil hat). So, what your basically telling me is that by buying Youngevity products is i could be harming myself and getting very little or no benefit from the products at all. Of course, as you mentioned, there is no clinical research on Youngevity8217s products or supplements of being beneficial than how would you know of them being harmful If per say Tangy Tangerine does have the vitamins and minerals they claim they have, how can they be harmful Also, if I was to by the vitamins and minerals separately, they would cost much more. Your claiming there is no benefit from buying Youngevity products, what do you have to show that it is harmful You are free to form your own opinion after reading the article. I think consumers should be informed about the scientific consensus that supplements don8217t help and the other information (as referenced in the article) that supplements might even be harmful. There8217s no clinical research about the health of my aunt8217s sugar cookies, but I8217ve seen the sugar she puts in them. I don8217t believe she8217s using magical healthy sugar. I presume that anything I read about the negative health effects of sugar apply to those sugars even without specific clinical research on them. As always, I8217ll let everyone make their own conclusions. I8217m not sure I follow your logic that taking the vitamins separately would be more money. You would be getting more quantities of them (like a whole bottle of vitamin C). Instead, I showed that you could save money with something like Opti-Men8217s vitamins, which is more or less equivalent (please see article for information on this). Hey Lazy Man, I appreciate your insight and research on the notion that supplements don8217t help. I8217ve never heard that before. I grew up with my mother always shoving vitamins and cod liver oil by the teaspoon down my throat, ( Puke ) but never imagined that they don8217t help. I really hate the idea of not only wasting my money, but being filled with false hopes that I might be able to be superman again. I thought that Dr. Wallachs speech on our body8217s can heal itself from cancer and we don8217t need treatment like chemotherapy, and there is no more nutrients in our soil so send us your money and take our products, and the doctors wasted their time in medical school they don8217t know what their talking about. I will look into this more and talk with my health professionals, thankyou Lazy Man. Actually Youngevity was brought to court once and was court ordered to remove some harmful stuff from their Tangy Tangerine. It sounded like it had to do with Arsenic. But I only heard that from someone else. Have you tried is products Have you listen to his morning talk show Mon-Fri at 7:00 a. m. Pacific Time on 1340 AM radio I would suggest you listen to this program and listen to people who use Joel Wallach8217s products and seem to me getting well with these illnesses. I have been using his daily vitamin liquids and powders and I know they have helped me, in fact my doctor is lowering my prescriptions. You can listen to many people who are being helped by his products. I think you have to listen to this program and be in need of alternative methods to cure illnesses. If you want proof why don8217t you research the present food sold at grocery stores that have 50 or more pesticides taking away the needed enzymes, nutrients, and minerals need by human, but are not there in the food supply. Machen Sie Ihre Forschung. If you are asking if I8217ve tried the products, you haven8217t read this article. Please read it and then come back with an intelligent argument on that topic. When you read that article, you8217ll find than many MLM products get people through illnesses8230 if you listen to them. You shouldn8217t because this only happens with MLM products. I find it notable that you didn8217t provide your information. You seem to want to hide in the shadow rather than provide your information and your doctor8217s information so that we can validate your claim. I don8217t know who (his) has a morning radio show at 7AM Pacific time on 1340 radio. As I showed in the article, there is no problem with food sold in stores. Did you do your research Did you read the previous 1200 comments Hi. Thank you for your insight. I don8217t know if youngevity products are all that they claim to be. What I do know is that when I started using a nutribullet, my blood sugar came down and my mind cleared up. My aches and pains went away. Then I started taking vitamin d3 and I felt a little bit better. My mild depression left and I stopped getting colds in the winter. I also stopped getting flu vaccines. Ironically all my doctor Co workers get the sniffles and other viral illnesses during the winter. I then added magnesium glycinate and my muscle spasms stopped. Then I found essential oils. I started giving my asthmatic anxious daughter lemon, peppermint and lavender oils. She went from 5 to 6 asthma attacks a day to being able to join the volleyball and swim team. Using the oils, my psoriasis cleared up. I had it for 20 years and no rx product worked. This last year my daughter missed 3 weeks school throughout the school year for severe headaches. Trips to the urgent care, pcp and er and she still was having headaches daily plus dizziness. She managed to get used to the pain. Last month i took her to a chirpractor and learned her spine was all out of whack. First treatment and she felt better than she had in 30 days. Now her headaches are down to a 3 and the dizziness is gone. We have a couple more sessions left to go. My personal experience has shown me that allopathic medicine leaves a lot to be desired. I8217m positive that we are deficient in minerals and vitamins in this country. I8217m also positive that the form you take your vitamins and minerals make a big difference. So maybe I can get the equivalent of vitamins and minerals that youngevity sells cheaper but I will definitely examine the labels carefully. I trust my experiences more than any scientific journal. There8217s no evidence that essential oils work for any of that stuff. You might be confusing correlation with causation, but it doesn8217t really matter because if you are going to be anonymous, your story doesn8217t count for much. I know it8217s easy to trust your experience, but you really shouldn8217t. If you are looking at Mller-Lyer illusion. you would say that my experience says one arrow is longer. However, if you took a measuring device (such as those that are commonly used in scientific journals), you8217d find that your experience was wrong. Measurements don8217t lie. You8217re a complete hack. Let me get into reality here. 13 years, two herniated disc, rhumatoid atrhritis. High blood pressure and debilitating gout for 2 years. I was on allopurinol, prednisone and indomethacin for gout. The gout was so bad I had to have my knee drained about once a month for a little over a year. Loritabs 108217s (4 a day) for back pain, atenolol for high blood pressure. I have the medical records if you would like. I can also arrange for you to speak to my doctor if you wish since he guided me through it all after I asked him too. I am now off of all of the drugs, everything is now normal. No back pain, not burning in my rear end all the way down to my feet. I am now off of blood pressure meds, pain meds, gout meds, all of it gone. Even the arthritis pain in my joints are gone. I watched a video about 4 years ago now and bought all of the products I get of the youngevity product line on Amazon. I have never been a distributor for ANY MLM and feel the same about MLM companies as you do in general as far as the financial end of it. I also lost 70 plus pounds on these products. To put it simply, they have worked for me like nothing I8217ve ever seen. All of my medical conditions are now history. I know, simpletons like you will likely remain simpletons. You8217re just too friggin stupid to to learn from your screw-ups. You can talk all of the trash you want boy, but these products work. How in the world can you make claims when you have never tried the products before Huh simpleton Based on no credible science Let me show you how your corporate science works in the real world. I am a search marketer and e commerce owner that sells products online (no, nothing health based). I deal with FDA on a regular basis (Sunglasses and a host of other products that are non food or drug based are still regulated via FDA), and can tell you beyond ANY shadow of a doubt that the pharmaceutical game is rigged. Let me show you a little bit about that you willful simpleton. They sell drugs that are tested and approved for certain conditions and legal to sell, but they market them for things they are not approved for. They have doctors on their payroll, excuse me, had a host of doctors on the payroll to sell it to other doctors, a whistle blower put an end to it. They bribed FDA officials (Government) and then when caught, get a slap on the wrist and nobody is even charged. Then they are fined (Bribed the gov again). Such stand up people8230 right simpleton Think revolving door. Do you know WHO educates doctors on new drugs A Pharmaceutical sales rep with NO MEDICAL BACKGROUND They usually have a BA in marketing. You may also want to look up how many drugs are currently labeled with BLACK BOX WARNINGS I can show you these kinds of scams in most 8220major8221 pharmaceutical companies out there such as Pfizer and Merck. FDA is a total scam that is in place to control (actually to protect) profits of pharmaceutical companies and the advisory boards have pharma reps on them. Then we have a plethora of events such as the Melamine in the baby formula scam. This was in China initially and the guy responsible was put to death. There was a huge stink over this. But less than 60 days later, it was found that US makers were also caught with melamine in their baby formula just a short time later. When China was caught, FDA stated: 8220A review done by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration was unable to determine any level of melamine in infant formula that would be safe, the agency said8221 Just a short time later, when US products were found to have it, they changed their minds. 8220The levels that we are detecting are extremely low,8221 said Dr. Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA8217s Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. 8220They should not be changing the diet. If they8217ve been feeding a particular product, they should continue to feed that product. That8217s in the best interest of the baby.8221 This continues to this day. Still no justice. Should they still be feeding it to babies Huh simpleton I can show you many just like this one. Your blind faith in the system makes you nothing more than doctrinaire and a pathetic hack, or you8217re just stupid and do incomplete research. So, after reading your garbage, You think you are good at research, but you are a conformation biased idiot and must look the other way when contrary evidence, where circumstantial or not (of which I8217ve already given source links which are not circumstantial at all) is presented. You also need to look up the changes of nutrients and minerals needed for the body, start in the 19508217s and follow them to current and see how they have changed. Then go back to 1950 and look at food values of a simple tomato (or any other plant based food) and see how much they have dropped in minerals and nutrients. I can answer that for you since you lack the capacity for real research, it8217s dropped by OVER 40. That8217s just the tomato (others are much worse. Since your parent is a vet, ask himher about co-factors. I am sure you are ignorant on this topic also, so let me explain. Is calcium good for you or is it bad It8217s great for you IF you have proper magnesium intake because the body can8217t process calcium without magnesium (yes, this is peer reviewed science). You can look up why it8217s bad yourself, try not to screw that up son. The old standards was 91 nutrients and minerals, now FDA has significantly dropped them over the last 70 years absent proof. How many co-factors are we missing Huh simpleton Our health as a nation is getting worse by the day. But why Because pharmaceutical drugs leach even more of these from our already deficient systems, making us more sick with each pill we take. Many of which are synthetic. Even the vitamins we get from a pharmacy are synthetic, or not real nutrients. Not real minerals. You stated in one of your comments that we get everything we need from food. I call BS again. We (most Americans) eat processed trash because real food with real food values are not readily available in the US and haven8217t been for some time now. Your domain name 8220lazymanandmoney8221 is contradictory in nature. You can8217t be lazy and build wealth (make money, since you seem to lack comprehension). That is a total fallacy. Who in their right mind would believe ANYTHING you had to say considering this alone You need to apologize to your visitors who commented here boy You8217ve been an ignorant ass and have placed your trust in fools gold in both cases. I know you will likely not publish this comment. Publish it and give a smart remark and I will put this page on page 3, behind what I will outrank you with. Then people have a fighting chance to be educated with real research, and yes, I have professional researchers. I8217ll publish the comment. You barely mentioned the topic of Youngevity and only came through with a weak unproven, anonymous testimonial with no real specifics or scientific details. This isn8217t an article about the FDA. That8217s a whole other political battle to have on some other website. This isn8217t even an article about depleted vitamins in food, but I addressed that because many Youngevity distributors seem to try to trick people with that false logic. People lose weight on diet and exercise8230 not vitamins. If you8217ve got scientific proof (not unproven, anonymous testimonials) otherwise then go for it. If you want people to be educated with real research, why don8217t you give me credit for providing my research years before Daily Beast articles like this one validated much of the same information. Maybe there8217s something to Alex Jones saying that Youngevity products makes him crazed and aggressive as cited in the Daily Beast article. This comment from Jim seems to back that up. (You can be lazy and build wealth. There8217s this thing called compound interest. How much physical labor does Warren Buffet do compared to a coal miner Does he make more than 1000 coal miners each month 10,000 coal miners You might want to read my site in more detail before making false assumptions about the domain name. You might learn a few things.) It8217s obvious that you have zero medical, nutritional science, or biochemistry background. But why should that matter when righteous indignation and 45 minutes worth of gooling can make you believe that you have equal authority to someone who has Your post appears to be nothing but a geyser of keyboard diarrhea, consisting of a bunch of useless anecdotes, off topic subjects, and scripted Youngevity speak (and I8217m not even going to get into the embarrassingly lame and childish name calling and saber-rattling). Funny, for someone with so much to say, you presented absolutely nothing of value to back up your claims regarding Youngevity8217s products. You strike me as the kind of guy who8217s always shaking his fist and yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn. Dropping this as some great watching for followers of this article: youtubewatchvl3dGwSPrfZw. It8217s Adam Ruins Everything where Adam Ruins Nutrition. It validates much of what I8217ve been trying to explain here 8211 even cites some of the same sources. It8217s hilarious, so watch and enjoy. (Side note: I don8217t know if the poster has permission to put the show on YouTube and I leave that between the show8217s owner and YouTube to handle.) This article was written with only half information if even that. I personally know many people who have had there type 2 diabetes, liver problems, blood pressure problems, and many other problems 8220reversed 8221 with the use of Youngevity products. Editor8217s Response: Please provide PROOF of that. Supplements are actually more likely to cause liver disease . There isn8217t nor will there ever be a claim of Youngevity 8220curing 8221 an ailment or medical condition. If the author of this article had did his research correctly he would have found this out. Youngevity products simply gives the body the right minerals and nutrients to 8220help8221 itself to heal itself and nothing else. I really do think you all should do your homework a little more better before releasing an article like this one. Editor8217s Response: Where8217s the reputable evidence that they HELPED IN ANY WAY with any medical condition Lazy man8217s wife is a pharmacist. She losses money everytime a person finds out the truth about 90 essential nutrients helping the body to reversing diabetes. Cancer, heart disease, and hundreds of other diseases with NO ADVERSE SIDE AFFECTS. Editor8217s Note: Actually my wife8217s position as a top-ranked military Commander has nothing to do with dispensing medication. In other news, pharmacists in general are not paid according to the number prescriptions doctors order. Really strange to see see back-to-back unsubstantiated diabetes claims. If these are coming from distributors, I am fairly certain that would be illegal marketing. 97 of people who use chemo treatment to kill cancer will die. That8217s not very good results. No one on any of the diabetic drugs will get better, instead they are slowly dying. I love that I am fighting cancer 100 naturally and feeling healthier and stronger. Editor8217s Note: I don8217t believe that number is accurate8230 and you didn8217t cite a source. It8217s just as reputable if I said 99 of people don8217t use Google8230 it doesn8217t make sense and doesn8217t seem right. Insulin seems to be a very effective diabetic drug in my opinion. More importantly, why aren8217t you discussing Youngevity This article is about medical conditions as I don8217t believe Youngevity supplements has been specifically approved to HELP with them. You said, 822097 of people who use chemo treatment to kill cancer will die.8221 Lol, so are you saying that chemo has a 3 immortality rate Considering that 100 of people who have ever consumed water will die, I think those odds are quite remarkable (I hope you don8217t quit your day job, if you have one, to become a statistician.) Seriously, by saying things like that, you8217re just showing how much of a clueless idiot you are. That number is completely false. Not even close. Anyone who believes that, and chooses to treat their cancer 8220100 naturally,8221 as you put it, is a fool with a death wish. Good luck with your chosen treatment plan, though (if you actually have cancer). Unfortunately, no product that is effective at treating anything does so without the potential for adverse side effects, despite what you are claiming. You can8217t 8220reverse8221 diabetes with supplements. I have several family members and friends with the disease (type 1 and type 2). They have been managing their conditions successfully with conventional treatment for decades. I don8217t think I would consider enjoying living into your late 808217s, 8220slowly dying.8221 Dear LM, after reading this post I have come to the conclusion that you are a pinhead. Editor8217s Response: You8217ve be in the vast minority with that conclusion. Most people would conclude that I8217m brilliant for seeing through the questionable Clemson marketing research years before the Daily Beast got them to admit it. 82208230 no way endorsed any Youngevity product nor authorized the use of Clemsons name or data in conjunction with any claims of efficacy.8221 Your bias against MLM is blatent. Who cares that it8217s an mlm You are not required to become a member of the mlm. Editor8217s Response: Since this blog is about personal finance, the topic of business opportunities (and scams) is important. If you think I have a bias against MLM, you should read what the Federal Trade Commission chairwoman said about MLM. When the FTC has to use the word 8220legitimate8221 around a dozen times in chastising the group of companies, I think we should agree there8217s a big problem. Or maybe just watch this unbiased video about MLM . Next - You compare pricing per dose early in your post. Who cares what the per dose price is if you get results Editor8217s Response: I don8217t believe I used the word 8220dose.8221 I did a quick Google search for dose says that it is 8220a quantity of a medicine or drug taken or recommended to be taken at a particular time.8221 I don8217t believe that Youngevity8217s products should be referred to as medicines or drugs any more than glass of milk. When was the last time you compared 8220doses8221 of milk at various grocery stores. As far as getting results, where is the proof of efficacy It doesn8217t seem like results happen8230 However, in the world of MLM, nearly every company has salespeople illegally claiming such results You seriously need to compare apples to apples and I assure you - all costs considered, the health care plan costs, deductibles, rx prices when compared to naturopathic prices and positive results, I8217ll try naturopath any day. Before you reply - NO I don8217t take Youngevity products (yet) NOT a distributor, NOT an mlm proponent. Besides, what credentials do you have to criticize anyone in need to try a cure for their medical illness Continue to take your pills, I8217ll eat an apple8230. Editor8217s Response: I compared vitamin supplements to vitamin supplements. You are seriously upset that I didn8217t compare COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE (one of many source ) vitamin supplement costs to having a health plan And you are seriously suggesting that I lack an apple-to-apple comparison and conclude that I8217m a pinhead REALLY. Actually in my family the chemo treatments results are even worse. Seven out seven family Members have died with Chemo treatment, that would be 100 ineffective and my cousin is critical and fighting for his life on respirator right now from botched cancer surgery. You cannot discredit these facts, I attended the funerals. Why do you use sample size fallacy. My close family and friends who have had cancer have 100 SUCCESS rate (4 of 4) with their cancer medication treatments (not supplements). You cannot discredit these facts, I saw two of them at Thanksgiving and talked to another a week ago. I8217m confused that you seem to be talking about Youngevity, given that you are a distributor for another MLM. I guess you believe that only MLMs can be healthy Shall we talk about and VERIFY the facts that you say that I can8217t discredit Remember, anonymous testimonials are useless8230 even more useless than small sample sizes. Dear Bob, after reading this post I have come to the conclusion that you aren8217t even intelligent enough to understand what it actually means to 8220compare apple to apples.8221 Your ignorance and small mindedness is incredible. You are certainly a Lazy Man full of your own arrogance. I8217m glad four of your family Myers survived cancer. Merry CHRISTmas. Catherine Blevins, so you don8217t promote another MLM You just want to bully me with insults instead of having a logical discussion I accept your defeat in discussion. Gee, Catherine, if I didn8217t know any better, I might think that you8217re being insincere about being happy for the good health of LM8217s family members and about wanting him to have a nice holiday. Oh well, no worries, have a joyous yuletide season anyway I think your wrong about youngevity their are lot of people that are reaping the benefits from this product and they don8217t make the claim that it is a miracle cure I know a lady on it her health has greatly improved Michael chiming in with an anonymous testimonial of an undefined nature. It8217s hard to be less convincing. Mr Lazyman, thank you firstly for you info. I8217ve looking for a vitamic and mineral suplement to better fit my budget. Will definitively check opti-man out. Having said that, I see your point clearly that suplements might be as good as a placebo, and knowing your wife has a doctored in pharmacology, which is as good as any doctor in dentistry, or podiatry, or for this case Dr Wallach in naturopathy, that8217s all good, gotcha THEY8217RE NOT REAL DOCTOR8217S. I8217ve to podiatrist that are better in diagnosis and treatment, than a real specialist doctored in foot orthopedics, A REAL DOCTOR, but all that aside. Mr Lazyman honestly, you8217re representing a bias opinion against suplements, due to your wife being a pharmacist, meaning she profits from the legal multibillion dollar pharmaceutical drugs industry that treats millions succesfully, but that unfortunately comes with horrible known side effects, that kills 100k a year and cause so many other side effects we must live with, because the benefits outweigh the risk. Editor8217s Note: My military wife works for the US government and doesn8217t make a dime from any pharmaceutical drugs. For years she was tasked with inspecting nursing homes to ensure that patients are getting proper treatment. I have no bias, but even if I did, the facts are still the facts. It is clear that vitamins and minerals and a waste of money. The multibillion dollar supplement companies are the ones you should look at. As a general group they haven8217t shown through the scientific process their products help anybody. See Mr Lazyman, contrarycontrary to your bias opinion supplements don8217t hurt people, and the wonders of placebos during WWI, are good enough for us to take them, even if is just expensive urine down the drain. It8217s a life insurance to take suplements, even if it8217s snake oil. But comes with little or no side effects, and suplements a poor diet Americans have in this 21st century, of eating out on the run always. Editor8217s Note: I8217ve said that they supplements do hurt people, though there is evidence out there that they can. They aren8217t regulated and have been linked to liver damage. Life insurance is actually helpful, it has a payout per the terms of the policy. There are few problems with placebos which I8217ve written about before and won8217t repeat here, but it undermines the trust in medicine. People jump to supplements for their cures instead of science. It would be like the candy industry pitching that chocolate can help you and everyone deciding, 8220I don8217t like Big Pharma, I8217m going to eat one KitKat everyday8221 One KitKat a day won8217t hurt you, but you are losing days and treatment by following misleadingfalse information. And you might be wasting money if KitKats raise their prices and claim that they better than Hershey bars (like say an MLM supplement company charging 10x more for their supplement). Plus the hamburger analogy, sorry to say, just doesn8217t make sense at all. I8217ve watched a documentary on 8220Monsanto8221 amp 8220Food Matters8221, I recommended both, and is scary what our non label GMOs food is. Pesticides in our corn. Jesus. corn is in our cereal, our sugar(HFCS) That8217s everywhere, everywhere. Our soil is been poison with monsantos-Roundup, our soils, if not depleted as you believed, is getting toxic by the minute, of course we need to feed 7 billion mouths world wide, and therefore might be a necessary evil, who knows. My Lord. Editor8217s Note: Actually we had much worse pesticides in the 50s and 60s. Have you heard of DDT You always have the option of going organic. However, this isn8217t the topic of the article, so please get back to Youngevity specifically . I8217ve had pharmacists, nurses and doctors confidently tell me they wouln8217t take most of the drugs they prescribed to their patients. And advice me to suplement with vitamin C, B, D, omega3,6,9, baking soda with lime-lemon, colloidal silver, and co-enzyme Q10 along with a healthy diet, excesive and plenty of clean water. Editor8217s Note: Please supply a list of names and numbers of these people, so we can verify. I take their heartfelt advice any day, but yours Mr Lazyman due to your pro-establishment bias, and Dr Wallach for profits bias, I take with a grain of salt. Now your opti-men vitamic lacks behind Tangy tangerine in most vitamins quantities I mentioned above, amp is missing some vitamins amp minerals, but it8217s a better economic choice as you correctly stated. Editor8217s Note: I said that it was lacking some and had more of others. However, it doesn8217t really matter if we can8217t show that any of them of have an impact. It8217s like debating about the wind speed in New York City in relation to changing sporting event in California. Scientifically it doesn8217t matter, so why waste our time worrying about whether it was 18mph or 19mph Thanks and happy new year to you8217All. In regards to dr wallach8217s cd 8220dead Drs don8217t lie8221 I question his remarks on longevity he said that people who lived past -100 yrs were from rural countries so how could they get the nutrition they needed from the their diets to live so long that he claims we need. So if I eat like they do I can live longer not using his advice. You really need do a very poor job of research. 1. You don8217t have any idea what the subject you are talking about. You don8217t know the differences between apples and oranges. 2. You didn8217t look into the so called claim that Wallach 8216Says8217 he cures people. Legally he knows curing is for pharmacy and meat products. Healing is something the medical and pharmaceutical companies cannot say they are doing. 3. Your knowledge of this field is both biased and ignorant. 4. Pharmaceutical companies use studies on the benefits of vitamins and minerals to try to 8216Create8217 a cure and thereby they tell people that supplements aren8217t necessary so they can sell a drug or manufactured synthetic supplements. 5. This is a field that is being opened by people who are being forced to evaluate the medical field. For those of us that know the difference and have been harmed by medical organizations and drugs, your ignorant statement is an insult to countless injuries. Why would anyone 8220need8221 to do a 8220poor job of research8221 I think I do know the difference between an apple and an orange. Color is one difference for example. Taste is another. I like cured meat products, but I don8217t think has anything with medicine and health. I think it is more about salt. I8217m not sure that pharmaceutical companies cannot say they are healing. If my knowledge of the field is ignorant, please explain why. I8217m not biased against vitamins8230 I have simply formed an opinion based on my research. I don8217t think people are being forced to evaluate the medical field. Anyone who has been harmed by medical organizations should contact a lawyer in my opinion. This article is not about medical organizations. So what if you8217re vegan, or a vegetarian. Would vitamin supplements be useless then Or per say, a waste of money, as most are stating it And on Youngevity, I8217d just buy my supplements from a local herbal store. Support your local communities, leave these scam-artist for the jail cells Oh wait, they8217ll still benefit from my tax dollar. What a world we live in. (insert-emoji-here) I8217m not sure that Youngevity is vegan. It could be, but I haven8217t looked into it. In my experience the people who choose to eat that way are generally very healthy and conscious of their food choices. Love Youngevity. I8217ve used other supplements without the results that I have seen in less then a month. I am not a distributor, but might consider it now. Youngevity has given me a better quality of life, and pain I have had for years is gone You may critique and analyze until the cows come home, but it still will NEVER be a complete analysis until you try the product or study others who have and compared them to others who have taken the similar products you8217ve mentioned. Have you done this I would like to see those results For now I am happy paying for a life I am able to LIVE Thank you Dr. Wallach 1-10-2017 Amy, it is up to the company to present efficacy studies if they are going to make such claims. That8217s how medical research is conducted. Many vitamin studies have been done of many different brands and styles and there are not many results that have stood the test of time. Which Youngevity product are you claiming gives you pain relief. I don8217t think any I wrote about offer that (admittedly, it8217s been awhile since I8217ve written this article so my mind isn8217t fresh on the topic.) Amy DeVries said: Love Youngevity. Ive used other supplements without the results that I have seen in less then a month. I am not a distributor, but might consider it now. Youngevity has given me a better quality of life, and pain I have had for years is gone You are obviously mistaken. Youngevity doesnt sell any products that are intended or shown to relieve pain. You also conspicuously failed to mention the name of the product to which you were referring a rather glaring omission since you are attributing to it miraculous and counter-intuitive effects. Amy DeVries said: You may critique and analyze until the cows come home, but it still will NEVER be a complete analysis until you try the product or study others who have and compared them to others who have taken the similar products youve mentioned. Au contraire. It is you who is being myopic in ignoring the critiques and attributing properties to Youngevity products that they do not possess. Why should I try the product for pain relief as you suggested when the product is not marketed for such a purpose and there is no evidence that it has any analgesic properties That would be stupid. From the Youngevity website: These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any diseaseWe do not claim to treat, cure, prevent, or mitigate any disease or illness. youngofficialdr-wallach Comment navigation